Thoughts for a bard song

[FeliAiko]

That's assuming the devs decide they want to have both stack, which given history, won't happen. So either we get a useless new song, or the only support MNK has becomes slightly less important.

Although if both are used separately, then maybe...

In what scenario has direct buffs to the party not been able to be stacked? Moves like Dragon Kick/Delirium and Storm's Eye/Dancing Edge operate as debuffs to the target (thus indirect buffs to the raid), which is why they overwrite each other. Meanwhile, if a BRD has Ballad/Paeon up and an AST uses an AOE Ewer/Spire, those effects will stack because they are direct buffs to the party. The OP's suggestion would pretty much be the BRD equivalent to moves like Fey Illumination and Mantra, moves which can both be up at the same time.

[Alistaire]

In what scenario has direct buffs to the party not been able to be stacked? Moves like Dragon Kick/Delirium and Storm's Eye/Dancing Edge operate as debuffs to the target (thus indirect buffs to the raid), which is why they overwrite each other. Meanwhile, if a BRD has Ballad/Paeon up and an AST uses an AOE Ewer/Spire, those effects will stack because they are direct buffs to the party. The OP's suggestion would pretty much be the BRD equivalent to moves like Fey Illumination and Mantra, moves which can both be up at the same time.

2 diurnal ASTs casting regens. Also, doesn't even need a precedent; they could make a new buff not stack if they wanted to. Not that hard.

[FeliAiko]

Aspected Benefic is a HoT, not a buff. Try again.

Also abilities used by two or more players on the same Job will generally always overwrite each other... except BRD and MNK aren't the same Job. So again, give me an instance where similar/identical buffs from different Jobs don't stack.

[Alistaire]

Aspected Benefic is a HoT, not a buff. Try again.

Also abilities used by two or more players on the same Job will generally always overwrite each other... except BRD and MNK aren't the same Job. So again, give me an instance where similar/identical buffs from different Jobs don't stack.

A hot is a buff, don't need to try again. Also for the other reason I listed.

[FeliAiko]

A hot is a buff, don't need to try again. Also for the other reason I listed.

No, it's a heal (hence the term heal over time). Synastry is a buff, because it increases the healing power of said HoT while active. That's the difference.

The precedent they've set in this game already is that raid wide buffs from different Jobs can stack with each other, which makes sense with their philosophy (wanting all Jobs to feel useful within a party setting). Going "oh well they can just change it because they can" is weak, because I can just counter that with "they can have them stack too because they can do what they want".

An actual sound argument would be that since BRDs can cross class Mantra then they can already buff healing so it would be better to give them something more unique.