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    Koltik Morrel
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    Leviathan
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    Pugilist Lv 66
    One big problem I've seen is players who are new, but think they know everything and absolutely refuse to listen to experienced pvpers advice.

    You have the 10 stack tank who thinks the healer is horrible if they can't heal them through it. Because they've "stayed alive before" - probably against terrible DPS.

    You have the DPS who refuse to work together and follow marks, despite how much you ask them to.

    You have the Bards and Machinists who don't use PvP mana song for their healer - actually had a bard say "...suck my dick" when I asked for it on my Astro.

    You have the DPS who continue to LoS their healer, or not purify full swing, or blow all CD's before players even engage, and refuse to do it any other way.

    This is bad for PvP - anyone on Primal will know I get hot headed when people make mistakes, but all my rage is usually guided towards pointing out what went wrong and how to fix it. I make mistakes myself, we all do, and PvP is about constant improvement of those mistakes. The problem comes when the other players just don't care to fix it and play like the basketball player who never passes the ball. It's a team game, not solo.

    Point of this is that the best thing new players can bring to PvP is the willingness to learn and adapt to changes. Listen to people who have experience. Unfortunately lately it's been a 50/50 split between those who are and those who aren't. It's hard for us who are feast-heavy to even want to try to help new players when half of them don't give a shit anyway.
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    Last edited by Koltik; 08-08-2016 at 04:50 AM.

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    Aoi Yumi
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    Omega
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    I've been doing PvE only and recently decided to focus my attention more into the PvP aspect of the game, to say I've done it, enjoyed it etc. (also not much new content right now).
    As someone who is not completely trash in PvP (playing frontlines usually), I am still learning with each match I play. I am ranked Bronze with 29 matches played in the Feast with a 44% win rate. I started in the middle of the 2nd season to have something I can look forward to in this game, have dabbled in fl roulette a bit when Seal Rock was a thing. So I'm in the average/okay bracket I guess.

    The biggest problem I am facing right now is the unbelievably unfair matchmaking in the Feast. I am put into teams with players that have been PvPing since s1 and earlier or players straight out of PvE with accuracy all over their lore gear. Basically how I started since I didn't know any better. (continued)
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Of course I keep meeting players that express their upset feelings (and it can get pretty colourful sometimes), sometimes they are trying to give me helpful advice when I ask what I could improve on, I end up in the higher spots of damage dealt (MNK), but it just needs one guy to kill your mood and motivation for the gamemode.

    You play with someone in a small team of 4 people, every player is important for the outcome. And then you have one or two in your team who don't know what the hell they are doing or are not aware of how to handle specific matchups (if you are a newcomer to the feast, how are you supposed to know all of this from the start, it's impossible).
    You obviously get frustrated because you see the mistakes they do, they don't, seems so obvious.
    Because you are not new. The community is almost entirely only out of veteran PvPers that have been doing this for quite some time. Which is not a bad thing, most of them are trying to improve and revitalize the community.
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    But the way matchmaking works right now... it will effectively scare away people who develop an interest in PvP because SE thinks it's a good idea to scramble all sorts of differently skilled players, mash them into a match for the sake of fast queues (which aren't fast at all even), mess up everyones ratings that don't deserve to be matched with lesser/higher skilled players and get carried to victories or drag their team mates down to losses.

    I personally got my share of all this nonsense, I enjoy PvP a lot, just not the Feast anymore. It creates a negative atmosphere and promotes toxicity. I've had more fun at Shatter to be honest. I will come back to it as soon as SE realizes that bad players need to play with bad players, good players need to play with good players. Because I can't improve if I get stomped on by Golds constantly or let someone else carry me.

    Sorry for the wall of text, thought maybe a PoV of someone kinda new would be helpful to the discussion.
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