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You could always play Black Desert; I don't know exactly what the MMO is actually like, but it's apparently a grindy game... with better graphics... :P

Black desert might be a good choice for me, it looks like a lot of the mmo's set for 2017 and beyond are going for what they call "hardcore" w/e but a more old school type game.

The one that caught my eye is Pantheon rise of the fallen

But again I'd really prefer if a SE game.