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  1. #21
    Player
    Nekotee's Avatar
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    Akihiko Hoshie
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 100
    Honestly as whm i don't care which tank i have i will rotate holy/aero3/blizzard2 to aoe
    And they better be using cooldown to save their Ass because i'm not healing more than i should
    (Ergo asylum and regen, tetra once i'm done aoeing)

    I love tank with CD i hate those who think i'm here to work because they don't want to use them
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  2. #22
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    Esp's Avatar
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    Espikes Darkwind
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    When I tank, I usually just let the healer do whatever they feel comfortable doing. If that happens to be someone Holy Spamming, go to your hearts content, and I will be right there with you spamming AD. I'll take advantage of Sole Survivor and CnS if necessary for Mp gain. xD

    The way I see it, whatever the healer wants to do, I will just adapt. This way, I have many different ways to go about each different run with the different healers and their style.
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  3. #23
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    Freyja Redgold
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    Moogle
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by DeusX View Post

    (regen skills) CS-swiftcast-holy-Aero 3-holy-assize-holy-shroud. If dps is slow I spam holy.This is for more small pulls and when I have all my skills

    (regen skills) CS-swiftcast-Aero 3-holy-presence of mind-shroud-holy spam- benediction.
    You should swiftcast a spell that you use right before an oGCD (PoM/Assize/Shroud) instead of those you listed since you don't use the fact that it's instant cast to use a CD afterwards it's kinda wasted. If you do something like Swiftcast - Holy - Assize - Holy, you don't delay your GCD to use Assize for example because you fully take advantage of the fact that the first Holy is instant cast.
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    Last edited by Freyyy; 08-08-2016 at 07:40 PM.

  4. #24
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    Warkupo's Avatar
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    Akos Talon
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    It's much more efficient on both you and the WHM to use blood price after holy stuns are gone. Why would you blood price at the start of a pull anyway? Terribly inefficient. Also in trash pulls carve and spit is a much better dps increase by using it to be able to aoe more/harder so blood price isn't even the only tool for mp recovery, and it shouldn't even be the first used. No reason blood price used correctly should be impeded by holy spam.
    To get horribly nit-pickish, the advantage of using blood price as soon as it's ready (and there's like, something angry at you) is that it isn't spending time on your hotbar being effectively useless while you pick the right time to use it. I've seen a lot of players over various MMO's get wrapped up in the idea of "the right moment to use this ability" that they neglect half their toolkit.

    That being said: yeah, the best time to use Blood Price with a Holy Spam-Happy Whitemage (and it really should only take one or two pulls to recognize one) is after the stun resistance kicks in.
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  5. #25
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    LeliannaF0's Avatar
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    Lelianna Fairweather
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    Cactuar
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Honestly , you shouldn't ever worry about your tank and you helping to speed the pulls up as long as the tank is alive.
    Leave the MP regeneration to us
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  6. #26
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    DeusX's Avatar
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    Deusx Aerian
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    Gilgamesh
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Freyyy View Post
    You should swiftcast a spell that you use right before an oGCD (PoM/Assize/Shroud) instead of those you listed since you don't use the fact that it's instant cast to use a CD afterwards it's kinda wasted. If you do something like Swiftcast - Holy - Assize - Holy, you don't delay your GCD to use Assize for example because you fully take advantage of the fact that the first Holy is instant cast.
    I see what you mean and have tried it in my expert roulette.Your advice seems to work ty. Sorry, its become a habit for to map the dungeon out and space out my skills. PS4 player here
    ex. If I use POM on this pack I'll know when it'll be back up for the next pack. Sometimes I save them because I see how df tanks pull and I adjust to them. But none the less, thanks for the advice
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    Last edited by DeusX; 08-09-2016 at 02:48 AM.

  7. #27
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    Aurius's Avatar
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    Aurius Rosnsathsyn
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 60
    It doesn't bother me, I have the responsibility of my mp management, you shouldn't have to worry about it. If I have a holy spamming white mage and it's combined with my dps happy play style we have smoother, faster runs.
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  8. #28
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    Ritza Solair
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 79
    Thou I have DRK to 60 for the story I have never used it so I can't speek for them on how Holy affects them, but as I do Tank our only real job is "Hold Hate & try to keep mobs still, while managing our end of skills (Def buff & MP/TP management)". That said a near OoM DRK that uses a mp-threw-taking Dmg skill while mobs are stuned can be annoying, but then its probably the fault of the DRK there that low on Mp 7/10 times (over zelous DPS, lazy/distracted Healer & unpredictable Mob DMG are other factors)
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    What some see as "distracted" is really "fathoming the unfathomable" - last words from an Ul'dahn Mercurial Chemister at the battle of Carteneau

  9. #29
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    KrenianKandos's Avatar
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    Krenian Kandos
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 90
    As many have suggested here, you shouldn't worry about how the DRK has to deal with a mechanic like your AoE stun.

    I run with a WHM healer all the time (Wifey) and she Holy's when she wants. That makes it interesting but I have to be the one responsible to not waste any of my BP cooldown because of it. Luckily, with her, I already discussed what I rather she do to make things a lot easier for me: let me gather, shoot a couple of AoEs, let her heal initially (which she really plays the role to do that and not dps as much as some enjoy doing) and then come in and Holy the crap out of em.

    It hasn't failed me yet.

    For WHMs that i get in DF, I suck it up. It's up to me to decide how to use my CD. Is it a bit annoying to guess? Yeah, but I compensate by using lower mana using aoe or using the tools I have to give me mana at the end. If I'm low on mana, it's 99% of the time my fault.

    Let the good DRKs do the work for you so you don't have to worry about a stun mechanic. ...except if you do it on bees. If you do that on bees at the start and immune stun them and they Final Sting me, I'll expect you to keep me alive, damnit. >.>
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  10. #30
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    Shinigami Zetta
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 90
    Personally yes, but I normally ask afterwards not to do it until I runs out ( 15 sec ) or unless I'm about ready to die as a last resort. Think about it this way, if the DRk is under gear we will lose hate. You kind of have to gauge the situation. Now if everyone is getting hit just time them off as best as you can judge.
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