Quote Originally Posted by MaeIsMean View Post
The problem is when people expect you to know and execute said "proper rotation" flawlessly all the time. Even if you are in a dungeon for the first time. I hate when people point and laugh and say "Haha, you just want to be carried!" because someone is learning and not doing things perfectly. With how fast it is to level these days (POTD has not helped this), it's easy to get a class to 60. And some of the job guides on this very forum are confusing as hell for someone who isn't 60 and in the best gear.
Here's an example, last night I ran an expert roulette. I saw a other smn in the party and thinking to myself that this will be a very quick run. Now that was my fault since I had that expectation, however first two trash pulls and that smn could not figure out how to get the dots on all mobs.

He was spamming ruin I and garuda was of course set to sic. After the first boss (took forever mind you), he then finally found ruin II, still no dots were applied to any targets, nor shadow flare or death flare, ruin III or any basics. Again, that is the basics of a smn not something advanced that we are asking for and if you're 60 (don't care how you got there), I should assume that you at least know the difference between dots and ruin's.

So I kicked him, but that has nothing to do with my expectations because if we would go by that, I would have kicked him already earlier, since a good and geared smn can pull 2800 - 3500 dps on trash alone. Him being mediocre geared, at least should pull around 1700 dps and not 250 or something like it.

So that excuse about expectations is invalid and I doubt that even if you were in that group, would have tolerated it and just finish the dungeon, which in this case would have taken nearly or over an hour. Nobody got time for that lol and this has nothing to do with flawless rotation or practicing the rotation, all of that I could have tolerated.