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[Underdog2204]

MCH will always be in BRD's shadow.. unless of course SE decides to bring them back to their former glory.

We make things go "BOOM!" though, BRD strums a harp goes and "pew pew". I know which one is more awesome.

Kicking based on job choice is still not justifyable unless said job is so broken it doesn't function (which is a situation a player should never find themselves).

[Yeol]

Different playstyle is not always bad. IF done right ofcorse. I'd call those players trying/doing uncommon things 'smart'.
But there are those that just make the run extramly awful, I wont mind kicking them.

[MaeIsMean]

I was kicked recently for asking a SMN in POTD to switch to Ifrit instead of Garuda because the rest of the group was melee and chasing mobs his pet was knocking back into adds over and over. It was annoying as heck. I wasn't rude about it, I simply asked them to please change because the knockback is annoying for melee. A short time later, i was kicked.

[Windi]

From what I've read in this thread so far, I think the entire issue could be solved if people adequately communicated with each other.

This goes both ways. Players should let their own team know about their goals and get to know their team's circumstances (which can be done very quickly), but other players who are on the receiving end of criticism should put their pride aside and listen to advice if what they're doing is harmful to the party, and for this reason I can't really verify that the OP is giving an unbiased view of the story, here.

Like, for all those who kicked other players for having "bad playstyles," did you adequately communicate your expectations or help to correct the issue before pulling the trigger, or did you just make assumptions about your own party and kicked the "bad" players without saying much? If the latter is true, then you are actually part of the problem.

[Windi]

As an aside, there is no such thing as a "bad" playstyle as it's something completely subjective. Sure, some styles won't be as effective in getting the job done, but that depends on popular opinion and the current circumstances at hand, so I highly recommend you guys get out of that mindset.

[FunkyBunch]

As an aside, there is no such thing as a "bad" playstyle as it's something completely subjective. Sure, some styles won't be as effective in getting the job done, but that depends on popular opinion

This is not true. Play Styles that are less effective are bad. There's no popular opinion, if what you're doing makes it take extra time, it's bad. If it makes what you're doing take less time it's good. It's a pretty objective standard and not subject to opinion.

[Windi]

This is not true. Play Styles that are less effective are bad. There's no popular opinion, if what you're doing makes it take extra time, it's bad. If it makes what you're doing take less time it's good. It's a pretty objective standard and not subject to opinion.

Taking extra time is "bad"? I'm sure if you rushed through a chess match, for instance, you'd probably be punished for it. "Bad" and "Good" are inherently subjective terms dependent on the conscientious of a group of people. There is nothing objective about it, and I'd even go on to say that objectivity doesn't truly exist in a medium like games, or anything in society as a whole.

[Talamarie]

This is not true. Play Styles that are less effective are bad. There's no popular opinion, if what you're doing makes it take extra time, it's bad. If it makes what you're doing take less time it's good. It's a pretty objective standard and not subject to opinion.

And this is a shitty answer and a really closed mind style to operate into a community game. Like he said people should communicate.
Would you kick someone because of his job that is less operative for you although it's the only one he maxed so far ?
I have the feeling that i already know the answer.

Personnally when i get into an instance and i want some stuff i ask the team if that wouldn't bother them to leave it to me.
Some agree others don't. But i talked about it and that make it easy and completely understood.

[Youkulm]

I was kicked recently for asking a SMN in POTD to switch to Ifrit instead of Garuda because the rest of the group was melee and chasing mobs his pet was knocking back into adds over and over. It was annoying as heck. I wasn't rude about it, I simply asked them to please change because the knockback is annoying for melee. A short time later, i was kicked.

Who plays with their pet on Sic anyway? Bad SMNs, that's who. May be a generalization but I would have kicked them as well.

[Teryaani]

I have had this numerous times cause players don't like knock back attached to abilities... Guess what TOUGH if it wasn't ment to be used they wouldn't have put it in the game... That's called being a cry baby and you don't want to put extra effort...

Pretty sure.