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    Quote Originally Posted by Okipuit View Post
    Hey everyone!

    While we will not be able to do much more for the target system in the current version, I would like to go over some improvements planned for 2.0.
    (and bunch of other stuff that has nothing o do with the OP)
    While mouse over targeting in ver 2.0 is great, you completely avoided the original post, Will we be able to have an option to have PRIORITY of our targets go from left<->right regardless of distance to something more practical like left<->right:closest to furthest

    Right now in game, it's difficult to target something that is to the left of you and slightly ahead when there are targets more midline to your character but completely out of range. THose targets that are midline regardless of distance have priority over ones that happen to be closer but more lateral.

    Can you comment on that? Hopefully it won't take seven months to get a reply that doesn't answer the question.
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    Bebekurenai's Avatar
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    Maya Sop
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefCurrahee View Post
    While mouse over targeting in ver 2.0 is great, you completely avoided the original post, Will we be able to have an option to have PRIORITY of our targets go from left<->right regardless of distance to something more practical like left<->right:closest to furthest

    Right now in game, it's difficult to target something that is to the left of you and slightly ahead when there are targets more midline to your character but completely out of range. THose targets that are midline regardless of distance have priority over ones that happen to be closer but more lateral.

    Can you comment on that? Hopefully it won't take seven months to get a reply that doesn't answer the question.
    Quoting for more power!!!

    Yes, please answer what has been asked ^^/
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    Yoso Carrasco
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    When fighting multiple enemies, if you have ever found it difficult to target a monster you are not auto-attacking so you can execute an action on it; in version 2.0 we will be making it easier by allowing you to place the mouse over another target and execute actions on them. We will also add a similar system for gamepads and we are currently looking into the best way to implement this.
    Yessss thank you. As a gamepad player it's really frustrating having to completely close out the action bar in order to do actions like WS's on alternate targets. It makes killing plumes in Garuda more difficult than it can already be.
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    Vitra Crimsonash
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    Make a macro for your WS and in stead of <t> place <st> this will allow you to select the target instead of it just exicuting the weaponskill automatically...
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    Liniont,

    all of your soultions are great, but it doesn't solve the issue when you want to target a mob that is to the left or right of you, when there are monsters that are more midline yet further away get priority targeting rather then the ones that happen to be closer, but more lateral (to the side)

    Like my OP diagram shows:

    |-------o-----------------------------|
    ----|------------------o----------|
    ------|-----o-------------o-----|
    ---------|-------o------o-----|
    ------------|----o---A----|
    ---------------|---o--|
    -----------------|X|


    you are "X" now under current target priority target "A"

    <left to right>

    |-------1-----------------------------|
    ----|------------------7----------|
    ------|-----2-------------9-----|
    ---------|-------4------8-----|
    ------------|----3--6A----|
    ---------------|---6--|
    -----------------|X|

    <right to left>

    |-------9-----------------------------|
    ----|------------------3----------|
    ------|-----8-------------1-----|
    ---------|-------7------2-----|
    ------------|----6--4A----|
    ---------------|---5--|
    -----------------|X|


    Now if they made it so closer targets get priority over further targets it woudl look like this:

    <left to right>

    |-------9-----------------------------|
    ----|------------------8----------|
    ------|-----6-------------7-----|
    ---------|-------4------5-----|
    ------------|----2--3A----|
    ---------------|---1--|
    -----------------|X|

    <right to left>

    |-------9-----------------------------|
    ----|------------------8----------|
    ------|-----7-------------6-----|
    ---------|-------5------4-----|
    ------------|----3--2A----|
    ---------------|---1--|
    -----------------|X|


    There should be an option to allow target priority to be set from closest to furthest. There are too many times when frustrations arise because you target something that is 1)too far away to attack, or 2) seeming behind your intented target because the mob just happened to be more midline to your cameras angle.

    So under default target settings it takes either 4 or 6 cycled targets to select the intended target.

    Under adjusted priority targeting it would take 2 or 3 cycled targets.

    Yes, it would take more cycled targets to reach something further out, since 4 of 7 jobs are melee and deal with mobs at a close range, it would make sense to have an option to have target priority closest to furthest!
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    Last edited by ChiefCurrahee; 07-04-2012 at 04:34 AM.

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    I'll have to check when i get off from work but if i remeber correctly my target enemy and target engaged enemy all start with my nearest also there is an option for target nearest in the keyboard config menu that isn't set to any keys it's more of an option. I'll do some investigating when i get home
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    Also i gave you a solution for the melee classes i have no problems targeting and i have a tank and dps as my main so try my set up and see if it works for ya because its the most efficient set up i could calculate after studying the system
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    Wano Rano
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    I always hear about mouse/keyboard & gamepad optimization. The thing is, I hate playing with the mouse and I'm used to play with the keyboard only. I did it on XI for 8 years, I did it on other games and I'm still doing it on XIV.

    Please, don't force people to use BOTH mouse/keyboard if they want to play just with keyboard.
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    Fey Nafilia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanfrano View Post
    I always hear about mouse/keyboard & gamepad optimization. The thing is, I hate playing with the mouse and I'm used to play with the keyboard only. I did it on XI for 8 years, I did it on other games and I'm still doing it on XIV.

    Please, don't force people to use BOTH mouse/keyboard if they want to play just with keyboard.
    I'm in the same boat. Keyboard-only controls are - for me - much faster, more precise and also more comfortable to use than a keyboard-mouse combination.

    The only thing I sometimes want to use the mouse for is smoother camera movement.
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    Sharcos Dea
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    Another keyboard-only player here. I just find using the mouse really cumbersome. Having to move my hands so great distances constantly to, for example, type something...I simply don't like it.
    I know they've said before they wouldn't screw over us keyboard-only players, but that was way before, and since then I seem to recall Yoshi-P wondering in an interview when it was asked if people really use such an option, like it was somehow inferior and beneath notice. And as if he didn't know it's an FF staple for many of us. It makes me really, really worried, especially with all the mouse-centric control schemes I keep hearing about. :/
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