How is this Balanced? (Bard)

[itsoni]

Both MCH and BRD burst are equally cheezy.

It does have a degree of skill that can't be achieved in 1 conversation. Is this a post about MCH? No it's not. I've even said before in other threads MCH needs nerfing also because of how cheesy BtE is. Stop nitpicking parts of the post and trying to create an argument out of nothing. If you've got nothing better to do just go for a walk.

If you wanna nerf shit then nerf ALL jobs to have a dmg cap of 3 to 4k on any one ability then and enjoy your battles of attritions between heals. Because in the end that is what everyone is complaining about.

That's a terrible idea. I dont know why you'd want to incorporate that. If you're trying to say that's what I'm asking for then you're completely delusional. Read my completely unedited post again and stop putting forward ideas that would never work.

Dont be disingenuous we all know no one would give two shits about the Farshot/Sidewinder/Misery's End/Bloodletter/etc portion of the burst had the Barrage+Empyreal Arrow part not existed.

Who's being disingenuous? What's your argument here? It's non existant. Obviously the problem is the whole combination. Are you reading the same thread as everyone else is? I've said jobs should have returns on skill based play. Hoarding CD's and pressing 4-6 buttons to make a difference once every 2 minutes with 11-14k damage, in the space of 2 seconds, isn't skill. MCH has a bit more skill simply because of its higher utility and the sheer number of CD's you can take advantage of given the situation you're in.

Try again.

[Dimitrii]

Who's being disingenuous? What's your argument here? It's non existant. Obviously the problem is the whole combination. Are you reading the same thread as everyone else is? I've said jobs should have returns on skill based play. Hoarding CD's and pressing 4-6 buttons to make a difference once every 2 minutes with 11-14k damage, in the space of 2 seconds, isn't skill. MCH has a bit more skill simply because of its higher utility and the sheer number of CD's you can take advantage of given the situation you're in.

I'm gonna ignore all your nonsense about MCH and accusing me of bringing it into the discussion since if you just took 2 seconds to look up you would see you opened its burst up for debate with your own comment. Now please explain to me how bard saving their buffs for their burst is any different from the other dps? There is no difference. That is my point. What you are complaining about is not the Sidewinder/Farshot/etc part of the burst. You are complaining about the Barrage/Empyrean Arrow side of it which when combined with the other half is what makes BRD burst feel godly. Don't act like the burst for melees or MCH are so intricate cause they aren't.

What exactly do you want to do to the burst if not reduce the dmg? Because I can pretty much guarantee if the burst did half the dmg it did now this thread wouldn't exist. Disregarding your horrific sense of time in claiming the burst takes all of 2 seconds to perform, the fact of the matter is the total dmg of the burst is what is irking ppl not the difficulty with which the burst is performed. You arguing otherwise is what I mean by saying you are being disingenuous. How are you gonna make buffing up for your burst before actually bursting an intricate and demanding skill like you claim the melees and MCH have? Btw no I do not want there to be a cap on dmg dealt but thats the way ppl are heading towards. They nerfed WAR cause of its 6k+ double fell cleaves. They nerfed MCH between the eyes (though to their credit they didnt fold completely on that). And they want BRD burst nerfed now. It has nothing to do with the skill lvl needed to burst so get real.