[REQUEST] Making MB selling fairer (in some way)

[Niwashi]

it will go back anywhere. could end up top of the list or bottom of the list as is RNG.

It's not random. Items are sorted first by per-item price. When multiple listings have the same price, they're sorted by stack size. When multiple listings have both the same price and the same stack size I believe it's the region it's being sold from (and therefore whether there's tax added) that's the third criterion. If all of those are equal, then it goes by when the item was listed.

Those first three criteria are about making it easier for the buyer to find the listing they want. The final one is about fairness to multiple sellers offering the same thing. Seems a pretty good arrangement overall.

[KarstenS]

I believe it's the region it's being sold from (and therefore whether there's tax added) that's the third criterion.

Nope.

Its the time, when the retainer got sent back to the market.

The rule is: the last one is the first one.

You can test it. Put something into the mb at the same price like others and wait till you are not on place one anymore. Call your retainer and send him back et voila: you are back on place one.

[Masekase_Hurricane]

I often undercut for 1 gil, unless it is something that doesn't sell well and I want rid of it quick. Has been times when I have joined in with undercutting when I see people crashing an item only to buy it low and sell it high a few days later.

[Masekase_Hurricane]

Actually yes I realised pretty quick that each area you did the fates in had the corresponding gear at npc for the level. I also realised any gear when I first started playing would be way over inflated as no one knew what price people was willing to pay.

As for new people their is plenty of guides and lodestone to let them know where gear is available. We never had that luxury on release, also for most it isn't their first MMO and many know that the community market will have over inflated prices. One of my favourites is mistletoe the NPC is next to the market board and prices still way above npc price.

[Cakekizyy]

I learned long ago in EQ, if I didn't know where to find someting in game to look it up on Allakhazam.

[Masekase_Hurricane]

One persons profit margin or item worth varies from seller to seller. Some sellers items I just see as plain greed and I am not gonna follow suit, which then I will list using price history or what I think it's worth. End of the day if I can shift 20 items before making the next 20 and still gaining a profit then I am happy. Yes this can crash the market but that's when I stop making stuff and buy and relist items from the market.

Also with some items if they are not selling after a few days/week then yes the price is gonna get severely cut. It makes sense to cut your loses and recuperate the loss on the next 10 items that took up that slot. I do this over 5 retainers which each having sold 50-75% of their stock, which I will then refill by the end of the day.

[Knahli]

I don't even get the point of this. There're two different sellers, each fairly placing two listings up of the same item for the same amount that the item tends to go for(as the history would easily tell you), and then this guy comes along, cuts it by 1/3, and with his next four listings, subsequently undercuts himself to the point of reducing his massive undercut by a further 50%. I kept checking on that guy and he wasn't competing with anyone and kept relisting for that same price while the items sold no more quickly than the history beforehand revealed.

[Teryaani]

I don't even get the point of this. There're two different sellers, each fairly placing two listings up of the same item for the same amount that the item tends to go for(as the history would easily tell you), and then this guy comes along, cuts it by 1/3, and with his next four listings, subsequently undercuts himself to the point of reducing his massive undercut by a further 50%. I kept checking on that guy and he wasn't competing with anyone and kept relisting for that same price while the items sold no more quickly than the history beforehand revealed.

I'd love to hear theories for the intentional market tanking you're showing. My pet theory is that they hope to drive the price even further down to allow a quick buy up of even cheaper units, with the plan being to pull his/her own auctions and then list around the 30k mark.

[Cakekizyy]

I don't even get the point of this. There're two different sellers, each fairly placing two listings up of the same item for the same amount that the item tends to go for(as the history would easily tell you), and then this guy comes along, cuts it by 1/3, and with his next four listings, subsequently undercuts himself to the point of reducing his massive undercut by a further 50%. I kept checking on that guy and he wasn't competing with anyone and kept relisting for that same price while the items sold no more quickly than the history beforehand revealed.

What's worse is when I was selling a vendor bought item for moderate profit and someone starts selling for 1 gil.

[Parawill]

What's worse is when I was selling a vendor bought item for moderate profit and someone starts selling for 1 gil.

That's when you buy it and NPC it.