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  1. #21
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    Zojha's Avatar
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    Lodestone Bait
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    Pandaemonium
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    Gladiator Lv 1
    Quote Originally Posted by Hasrat View Post
    Personally, I think the worst are those that list items at (or, strangely, below) NPC buy-back prices.
    It's really hard to understand from an egoistical point of view, but if you view if from a more communal point of view, it makes sense - better put it on the market than vendor it, as someone might need it and they'll be happy to get it cheap. It's not a big loss for you but might be a good gain for someone else.
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  2. #22
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    Lokier Ame
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    Ninja Lv 100
    I under-cut people by 50-500gil all of the time.

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  3. #23
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    Derio Uzumaki
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    Get over it. Undercutting will always exist and people have every right to set prices how they see fit
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  4. #24
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    Rena Ryuugu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasrat View Post
    Never really understood the point of undercutting, myself. Surely just hurts their own profits in the long run.

    Personally, I think the worst are those that list items at (or, strangely, below) NPC buy-back prices.
    I love those, I buy em all up and just resell to the NPC. xD
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  5. #25
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    Lilli Karani
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    Odin
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    Reaper Lv 90
    The onliest issue I have with the current system are the paid retainers.

    People that are paying for all 6 additional retainers do have the amount of market board slots growing up to 400% compared to regular players.

    Every day I'm storing alot of items, because I'm at the limit of my market board slots with my two retainers. Till I get the space to sell the stored items, many times the prices dropped alot. So people with additional retainers do alot more money than me, because they have much more room to sell items the same time.

    In my eyes this is an advantage that should not be there in a pay to play game.
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    Mature Rudlum
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    Ultros
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derio View Post
    Get over it. Undercutting will always exist and people have every right to set prices how they see fit
    Believe me I'm not being affected in the SLIGHTEST lol I'm trying to help other people to make money in a "fair" way.

    In all honesty I should be THE LAST person suggesting this lol. I'm just trying to help others and new crafers feel more welcome to the board.
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  7. #27
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    Kakita Ucalibur
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    Siren
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    Paladin Lv 86
    Quote Originally Posted by Hasrat View Post
    Never really understood the point of undercutting, myself. Surely just hurts their own profits in the long run.
    You are confused because you are focused primarily on long-term profits. Most players are not interested in using the market board to make money over the long term. Many are just posting various items they have gotten from various sources and just want to sell them as soon as possible in order to get their profit.
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  8. #28
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    Kosmos Meishou
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    Behemoth
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by KarstenS View Post
    The onliest issue I have with the current system are the paid retainers.

    People that are paying for all 6 additional retainers do have the amount of market board slots growing up to 400% compared to regular players.

    Every day I'm storing alot of items, because I'm at the limit of my market board slots with my two retainers. Till I get the space to sell the stored items, many times the prices dropped alot. So people with additional retainers do alot more money than me, because they have much more room to sell items the same time.

    In my eyes this is an advantage that should not be there in a pay to play game.
    The answer to this is limit that advantage to 4 retainers (2 free + 2 paid can do MB) and even if someone max's out their retainers to 6 paid, thhey still only have up to 4 retainers with MB access. Alternately have a market board proxy 'offfice' in each city that allows you, the player to sell items directly with slightly higher tax rate (or proxy commission + regular tax) and allow all players a maximum of 80 MB entries at any time, either through retainers or the market board proxy.

    This would also help tidy up the MB since there are categories with dozens of things from the same seller, and if their MB space were more limited, they would have to be more selective.

    Well that's my 2 gil on that idea at least.
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    Last edited by Kosmos992k; 08-09-2016 at 03:19 AM.

  9. #29
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    Cipher Zaabiz
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    Twintania
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    Paladin Lv 80
    If you want more profit, get more retainers, simple as that. I know from gm's that they won't even interfere when you form a cartel to increase prices of the goods. So there is 0 chance, they will ever regulate the market. They will only do it for stuff like house selling where a lot of gil (like 100 Mio gil) might be involved, what would totally destroy economy. But the retainer MB system regulates itself so no chance for you, sorry.
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  10. #30
    Player Lexia's Avatar
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    Lexia Lightress
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    Balmung
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    Ninja Lv 86
    Quote Originally Posted by Cipher_Zaabiz View Post
    If you want more profit, get more retainers, simple as that.
    Isn't that pay to win by that logic? (Oh you want more advantage to get more money buy more retainers)
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