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    gumas's Avatar
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    Rawon Special
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    Tonberry
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    Bard Lv 100

    Do healer need to help doing dps? Especially cleric stance?

    i want to make healer class but everytime i party (as dps) i always see the healer doing CS then help dpsing not once not twice, like everytime iam in party.

    Is this requirement? Do i get booted if iam not doing this? At first i though a low level dungeon thus the healer help but, even in high dungeon like antiower the healer still doing it and he's doing it quite frquently yet still healing everyone at the same time.

    I have almost zero experience as healer in mmo, i want to try in this game because how easy to switch class in here but the though of doing that just..... My eyes will be busy looking at the party hp (and some aoe dodging i guess) and i still need to stance dancing and help dpsing?

    Anyone can help with some insight?
    Not sure if server affect people playstyle but i play in tonberry (jp server)
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    Alistaire's Avatar
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    Sargatanas
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    Blue Mage Lv 60
    -xiv is a game where you don't need to heal constantly
    -nobody likes it when someone in the group just sits around
    -mp management is designed around raids which are much more taxing on your mp
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  3. #3
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    Tonberry
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    Bard Lv 100
    nobody likes it when someone in the group just sits around
    I dont see how the healer just sits around if he will busy healing people?
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    refer to the first point. You don't need to heal constantly. So yes, if you were to only heal (and not just spam cures that aren't needed) you would be sitting around a lot.
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    gumas's Avatar
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    Tonberry
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    Bard Lv 100
    I guess i can try at least for the low level one to grab the feel of it.
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    Character
    Liliana Iiana
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    Ultros
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    Sage Lv 90
    You don't have to dps as a healer, BUT most the time a good healer will have a lot of down time if you are just healing.

    I have been healing since 2.3 so it's second nature to change stance when everyone is topped off and buffed. Just try it and go slow. Once you are comfortable with your healing abilities try to change stance and dps a bit. You'll get used to the flow of fights and learn to maximize your dps while using minimal mp to keep the party alive.

    If you're interested then give it a shot. You will make mistakes and learn about your limits. Don't let the pressure get to you and you will be fine.
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    Noir Black
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    Leviathan
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    I think if you have the chance to do it you must do it, sitting a tank at full heal doesnt do any good, of course if you are expecting a tank buster then then top him, but in dungeons? theres no really any danger on regular pulls. I recently leveled my WHM to 60, and really is not hard to trow a stoneskin a regen even assylum go cleric swiftcast Holy Assize Aero 3 turn cleric off heal as necesarry repeat, it only takes around 6 secs to do it all. Also I have a BRD and it relly hurts me when I got no Caster Dps and my healer doesnt DPS at all, it makes my FOE's ussseles, A healer who doesnt dps dont need Ballad either they got more than enough mana for it.

    Also from my experience in the expert roullete is absurd dont too, once our healer dc in betwen bosses, we cleared perfectly fine up to the second boss, other time we got an amazing healer that dps just fine while keeping us alive we finished the dungeon around 25 min contrary all the times that takes 30+min
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  8. #8
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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 100
    In most casual content, you can use only your strongest abilities, without pause, and won't run out of MP. Because you can use your strongest heals without any real MP disadvantage, the amount of casts you have to spend healing are greatly reduced. And once the necessary healing's there, there's really nothing else to do with your free time other than dps, so you should be helping out rather than waiting around.

    When MP becomes a real concern, then you might actually hold off on doing anything sometimes, albeit very rarely, so as to save mana for intensive phases of healing (or even ones that will require you to DPS in the meantime such that you cannot simply regenerate MP during those phases where little healing is required; raid designs seem to be moving away from hard DPS checks and much more closely to hard eHP checks though, which will increase time spent healing as compared to DPSing.
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  9. #9
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    Character
    Cirina Dataq
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    Shiva
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 80
    I dont like the concept of Healer doing dps very much. At the moment I'm doing mostly Hullsbreaker Island hard mode (is that the right english name?) and it seems that every time I try to dps that nearly someone dies. Thats a bit scary tbh... Some of those Mobs there can hit quite hard. (Thats happened in other dungeons too)

    Maybe I'm just not good enough at stance dancing but without cleric stance doing dps is not helpful either
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    Character
    Hresvelgr Nightwalker
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 60
    Me as a bard, even if there is another melee dps, I would still play Foe to hopefully signal the healer to dps too.
    I went to Sohr Khai yesterday with my bf as war and another FC mate as blm.
    I didn't on foe till healer requested for it. I was happy to play foe throughout the run.
    Gotta say it felt the fastest run in Sohr Khai ever. In that party, only the healer could give out a commendation so she gave it to me.
    Felt so happy.
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