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    Yoshida is considering the removal of the GC restriction in PvP content.

    In response to a question regarding lengthy PvP queue times:
    "That said, I’m guessing your question was meant to imply that Grand Company restrictions were the root cause of your queue time. I would like to clarify that what I’m most concerned about when it comes to lifting this restriction is not about the lore or inconsistency with the narrative, but the moral degradation of our players. I’m mainly worried about new problems appearing that don’t exist at the moment, such as spy activity and particular teams farming for one single Grand Company.

    That being said, I do plan on running some tests, so please stand by just a bit longer."

    Source: http://gamerescape.com/2016/08/01/e3...oshida-part-2/
    Courtesy of sindoreiikitten's thread on Reddit.
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    Moral degradation, huh?

    What I don't quite understand is: Aren't 6+ premades pretty much already "farming for one single grand company"? What's there to worry about, that's already a thing. I don't quite understand what spy activity is supposed to be in this context either. Anyone got pointers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    Moral degradation, huh?

    What I don't quite understand is: Aren't 6+ premades pretty much already "farming for one single grand company"? What's there to worry about, that's already a thing. I don't quite understand what spy activity is supposed to be in this context either. Anyone got pointers?
    Adders had a premade on aether during 2.0 i ran into them all the time its nothing new to frontlines
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    If they removed the restriction how could people farm for one free company? And what spy activity?
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    I believe the "farming for one single Grand company" is a mistranslation. I think Yoshi-P is referring to the concept known as "fishing." (i.e. someone queuing for a match and dropping out if they don't get the GC/party/other condition that they wanted).

    As for spy activity, just one player in communication with players in another GC via external methods can give the GC being feed information an advantage.
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    Last edited by Ultimatecalibur; 08-02-2016 at 05:27 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur View Post
    I believe the "farming for one single Grand company" is a mistranslation. I think Yoshi-P is referring to the concept known as "fishing." (i.e. someone queuing for a match and dropping out if they don't get the GC/party/other condition that they wanted).

    As for spy activity, just one player in communication with players in another GC via external methods can give the GC being feed information an advantage.
    Ok so spying can already be done, as for the not getting the grand company you wanted, that just...pathetic? They could just remove them and make blue team, red team etc.
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    Last edited by Genaxx; 08-02-2016 at 05:37 AM.

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    I'm not entirely sure fishing / win trading is going to be a large issue for Frontlines of all things, especially if the GC restrictions are removed and the queues become as fast as they should be. At any rate, they'd be less of an issue than the present GC restrictions.
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    Supposedly we already have some unpoliced healers win trading dropping I am told. If the games actually consistently get 72s during prime time it won't be that much of an issue. When premades in 72s get double teamed they generally don't have that great a win %.

    The real thing is that it will make people congregate to 3 servers. Further killing little servers, since cash shop transfers aren't blocked. Meaning on aether at least Gilgamesh and Balmung will see more people trying to get into premade pvps for wins.

    Nice post, this really should have been something looked into in 2.o. But maybe they will actually try to build community pvp servers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormrider View Post
    The real thing is that it will make people congregate to 3 servers. Further killing little servers, since cash shop transfers aren't blocked. Meaning on aether at least Gilgamesh and Balmung will see more people trying to get into premade pvps for wins.
    PvP'ers are already kind of stuck with server transfers since doing so resets your feast ranking, though I suppose that may just mean there'd be a mass exodus in between seasons.

    "Moral degradation" is the same phrase he used the last time he answered a question about gc restrictions. Honestly it sounds so absurd that Im led to think its a poor translation
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enlial View Post
    PvP'ers are already kind of stuck with server transfers since doing so resets your feast ranking, though I suppose that may just mean there'd be a mass exodus in between seasons.

    "Moral degradation" is the same phrase he used the last time he answered a question about gc restrictions. Honestly it sounds so absurd that Im led to think its a poor translation
    I hope they meant morale degradation. Still incredibly silly, but not quite so.
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