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  1. #31
    Player MeiUshu's Avatar
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    Sophia Sormanu
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    Balmung
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    [QUOTE=Xlantaa;3806897]No. This is a videogame. If you choose play from the beginning, then play from the beginning. Like every other game. If you start new game, you start at the beggining. Like everyone. We need stop this plague of shorcuts and lazyness. I know you mean alt, but I say no. We start by alts, then extent to mains.

    QUOTE]

    errrr....currently THAT is not a choice. You have to play from the start, that is exactly why people complain. You cannot start directly from HW. So yeah you know...
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  2. #32
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    Saseal Korei
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    Coeurl
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    I wouldn't mind it. I have a dozen alts running around (on same server as main or on other servers) for different reasons (anywhere from "I just feel like doing my own thing/off on my own without being social (ie, don't feel like socializing/talking, not worry about people getting left out in FC, pulled around by group wants, etc) but still want to do random dungeons/raids for fun" and "I couldn't make up my mind on looks but I still like my main character", to "I have a friend on another server" and "Balmung curiosity").

    I've gotten two characters to end game and two others hitting close to heavensward content (the rest not so much)..... and I still wouldn't mind something like that just for for alts. It's annoying if you have friends on other servers already at end game and you're stuck between main char's server stuff and tryign to speed level the alt on another server, to catch up.

    If you want the story again, then just don't use the potion o_oa

    Edit: I guess it wouldn't hurt if it was only for alts on accounts that have already passed into HW content.
    NOT for the 'I started a character to level 20 and then make an alt and BOOP now I'm in HW on the alt"

    A bad player that's already gone through HW/endgame/60 naturally can or will be a bad player on the alt, too, regardless of the potion jump or leveling to HW content normally.
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    Last edited by Saseal; 08-05-2016 at 12:53 AM.

  3. #33
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    randysquirrel's Avatar
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    Phoenix Silver
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    Odin
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    Alchemist Lv 60
    No. we have enough people running around at 60 without the first idea how to play their class. That's even having been through 60 levels and it still never clicking what certain moves do and how they work together.
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  4. #34
    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Kosmos Meishou
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    Behemoth
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    Paladin Lv 90
    I think this is a poor idea, and much like other suggestions to sell catch-up items, introducing these would pretty much kill the game from level1 thru 50. It's a terrible idea.

    Such items also absolutely meet the definition of "pay to win" since you are paying to immediately skip past content that you otherwise need to beat to progress.

    The last thing we need in this game or community is any form of pay to win and legions of kids with even less idea of how to play clogging up the queues.
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  5. #35
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    Zeyphr_Darkshadow's Avatar
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    Nox Noire
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    Odin
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    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by randysquirrel View Post
    No. we have enough people running around at 60 without the first idea how to play their class. That's even having been through 60 levels and it still never clicking what certain moves do and how they work together.
    This will be the main problem with it.
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  6. #36
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    Sylbritt Muscadet
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    Cerberus
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    Archer Lv 89
    Quote Originally Posted by OMG View Post
    How about they let us mail stuff to alts first, before working on this >:E
    Yes please! I'd much rather have this.

    As to the OP's suggestion, I don't support the idea. Levelling is fairly fast now, if you use the Friendship Circlet and Brand New Ring. I do think some of the 'padding' could be removed from the MSQ and relegated to side-quests but that's as far as I'd like it to go. If a large number of players take the 'easy option' of a boost for their alts then I fear it will kill the lower end content for anyone who wants to level the conventional way because they will face long queues or even worse, may not be able to find groups.
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  7. #37
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    Yoku Dekimashita
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    Quote Originally Posted by randysquirrel View Post
    No. we have enough people running around at 60 without the first idea how to play their class. That's even having been through 60 levels and it still never clicking what certain moves do and how they work together.
    Most of this is the fault of FATE's to be honest.
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  8. #38
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    Rena Ryuugu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeyphr_Darkshadow View Post
    This will be the main problem with it.
    Not really, bad players will be bad regardless. Those who wish to learn will seek advice or figure out how to play even if they start at max level. Dunno if anyone here watches Gamegrumps but they did an experiment in a way, the entire group who doesn't play WoW were given max level characters and it was a nightmare. For like 2 episodes they tried raids and was wipe after wipe and they were given little direction. Once someone stepped in and actually showed them how to use the classes, they got a lot better. If they made it to 60 all the way from level 1 and still have zero clue how to play this game, nothing we do is going to stop them. Perhaps they get joys from causing rage for everyone else.
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  9. #39
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    bass9020's Avatar
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    Faerie
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    Summoner Lv 90
    [QUOTE=MeiUshu;3807194]
    Quote Originally Posted by Xlantaa View Post
    No. This is a videogame. If you choose play from the beginning, then play from the beginning. Like every other game. If you start new game, you start at the beggining. Like everyone. We need stop this plague of shorcuts and lazyness. I know you mean alt, but I say no. We start by alts, then extent to mains.
    errrr....currently THAT is not a choice. You have to play from the start, that is exactly why people complain. You cannot start directly from HW. So yeah you know...



    @MeiUshu

    But HW isn't the beginning of the game?
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    Last edited by bass9020; 08-05-2016 at 02:17 AM.

  10. 08-05-2016 02:19 AM
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    mix up in quotess, so removing post to avoid further confusion

  11. #40
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    [QUOTE=Kosmos992k;3807373]
    Quote Originally Posted by bass9020 View Post

    How is HW the beginning? You join a story line almost literally in the middle of the fallout resulting from the chaos at the end of ARR 2.55. HW joins in the middle of a story and really, you need the ARR story for it to make any sense.
    I think the quoting got messed up :/

    Mei was responding to Xlantaa with "errrr....currently THAT is not a choice. You have to play from the start, that is exactly why people complain. You cannot start directly from HW. So yeah you know..." and then I said "But HW isn't the beginning of the game?"

    Just incase you weren't sure ^^
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