Atmas/Alexandrite for Umbrite, please!

[HakuroDK]

Heya! So there are a million different ways to get Crystal Sand, but only one way to get Umbrite: Esoterics.

Is there a way to, with all the FATE grinding out there these days, let Atmas and Alexandrite be tradeable for Umbrite? Thanks!

[Eul]

1 Umbrite 12 Atma

[Kallera]

What is wrong with you?

Atma needs to be buried in the dirt and sealed away with the two biggest rocks we can find and jp charm scrolls.

Alexandrite, less so, but atma? nonononono.

[HakuroDK]

Nonono, you know what the worst idea is? Bottlenecking a vital component of a Relic step behind Eso Farming. IMO, farming a single dungeon ad infinitum is worse than FATE grinding.

People have been farming for Yo-Kai weapons and getting a ton of Atmas they never use, so as an OPTION (read that word with me, O-P-T-I-O-N), have Atmas be a CHOICE (read that word with me, C-H-O-I-C-E) for turning in for Umbrites rather than straight Eso Farming until you die.

[Kallera]

Nonono, you know what the worst idea is? Bottlenecking a vital component of a Relic step behind Eso Farming. IMO, farming a single dungeon ad infinitum is worse than FATE grinding.

People have been farming for Yo-Kai weapons and getting a ton of Atmas they never use, so as an OPTION (read that word with me, O-P-T-I-O-N), have Atmas be a CHOICE (read that word with me, C-H-O-I-C-E) for turning in for Umbrites rather than straight Eso Farming until you die.

Nope, just because relic is the most tedious thing does not make atma ok. And frankly, the less atma-like activities the better.

[Lambdafish]

I'm confused, atma/alex only drops if you have a 2.0 relic equipped right?

[Laurima]

hmm Esoterics, farming a single dungeon? no

Hunts give Esoterics

Maps give Esoterics

daily roulettes give Esoterics

single dungeon? clearly you're doing something wrong...

[HakuroDK]

>Tries suggesting alternatives to grinding out Esos.
>Greeted with nothing but animosity.

[Kallera]

>Tries suggesting alternatives to grinding out Esos.
>Greeted with nothing but animosity.

I really don't want to give SE the impression that Atmas are a welcome repeatable experience we can do over and over again. So you can stop the dramatics.

[Lambdafish]

>Tries suggesting alternatives to grinding out Esos.
>Greeted with nothing but animosity.

Not to be that guy, but you suggested 1 alternative. People can disagree with you, and that 1 idea can be bad.

There are many alternatives that are far better than atma and alex, such as poetics, both hunt seals and GC seals. People don't want atma to be relevant again, and neither should they, as I said, I don't know why people are still collecting them as you need an old relic to obtain them, so their relevancy is very questionable. At this point, yo-kai medals would be better than atma as something to trade for umbrite.