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    Yoshida is considering the removal of the GC restriction in PvP content.

    In response to a question regarding lengthy PvP queue times:
    "That said, I’m guessing your question was meant to imply that Grand Company restrictions were the root cause of your queue time. I would like to clarify that what I’m most concerned about when it comes to lifting this restriction is not about the lore or inconsistency with the narrative, but the moral degradation of our players. I’m mainly worried about new problems appearing that don’t exist at the moment, such as spy activity and particular teams farming for one single Grand Company.

    That being said, I do plan on running some tests, so please stand by just a bit longer."

    Source: http://gamerescape.com/2016/08/01/e3...oshida-part-2/
    Courtesy of sindoreiikitten's thread on Reddit.
    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...yt&sh=2e8cc5c0
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    Moral degradation, huh?

    What I don't quite understand is: Aren't 6+ premades pretty much already "farming for one single grand company"? What's there to worry about, that's already a thing. I don't quite understand what spy activity is supposed to be in this context either. Anyone got pointers?
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    If they removed the restriction how could people farm for one free company? And what spy activity?
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    I believe the "farming for one single Grand company" is a mistranslation. I think Yoshi-P is referring to the concept known as "fishing." (i.e. someone queuing for a match and dropping out if they don't get the GC/party/other condition that they wanted).

    As for spy activity, just one player in communication with players in another GC via external methods can give the GC being feed information an advantage.
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    Last edited by Ultimatecalibur; 08-02-2016 at 05:27 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur View Post
    I believe the "farming for one single Grand company" is a mistranslation. I think Yoshi-P is referring to the concept known as "fishing." (i.e. someone queuing for a match and dropping out if they don't get the GC/party/other condition that they wanted).

    As for spy activity, just one player in communication with players in another GC via external methods can give the GC being feed information an advantage.
    Ok so spying can already be done, as for the not getting the grand company you wanted, that just...pathetic? They could just remove them and make blue team, red team etc.
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    Last edited by Genaxx; 08-02-2016 at 05:37 AM.

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    I'm not entirely sure fishing / win trading is going to be a large issue for Frontlines of all things, especially if the GC restrictions are removed and the queues become as fast as they should be. At any rate, they'd be less of an issue than the present GC restrictions.
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    Supposedly we already have some unpoliced healers win trading dropping I am told. If the games actually consistently get 72s during prime time it won't be that much of an issue. When premades in 72s get double teamed they generally don't have that great a win %.

    The real thing is that it will make people congregate to 3 servers. Further killing little servers, since cash shop transfers aren't blocked. Meaning on aether at least Gilgamesh and Balmung will see more people trying to get into premade pvps for wins.

    Nice post, this really should have been something looked into in 2.o. But maybe they will actually try to build community pvp servers.
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    Hopefully this consideration of removing the GC restrictions actually gets them removed and makes it in time for 3.4. I'm somewhat close to getting the white ADS mount, but the queues have been absolutely awful lately. What was once 5 wins a day is now down to 1-2, making it very hard to stay motivated.
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    Last edited by Syhrwyb; 08-02-2016 at 09:15 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NovaLevossida View Post
    I would like to clarify that what I’m most concerned about when it comes to lifting this restriction is not about the lore or inconsistency with the narrative, but the moral degradation of our players. I’m mainly worried about new problems appearing that don’t exist at the moment, such as spy activity and particular teams farming for one single Grand Company.
    With speed hacking, tomestone farmers, proven win-trading, and cut-throat behavior and animosity caused by rankings in Feast and they're worried about GC restriction-less Frontlines causing moral degradation and spying (as if that can't already happen)?

    Okay.
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    Four questions? Amazing interview, the partition one was particularly important imho. Randomize people to a team, stop making me lose faith in your range of thought Yoshi. "Afraid ppl will choose the same team every time" is how I read it.... Dont give option, alla Claws / Fangs.. I see super lazy mode going on.

    edit: interview
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