Some annoying behaviors and perceptions

[Miste]

What people need to do is stop taking it personally if someone is not chatting. In all likelihood it has nothing to do with you as a player or any other player in the group.

Sometimes my boyfriend and I choose to do DF together and we talk back and forth to each other (IRL) about the run or random stuff because we are spending time together as a couple. So we are quiet in the game because we are more focused on doing our jobs well and having fun talking to each other while doing something together we both enjoy. I don't ignore if people ask me something but I am there doing the job I need to do so I don't see why I must always make idle chit chat in random DF groups.

When I am by myself I am still generally quiet in runs unless asked something but I do say o/ or hi when I join DF groups; it doesn't mean I am rude or unkind. I am a pretty neutral amiable person unless people are rude to me. I am just having fun playing my job. Putting down my controller to type just isn't something I do much unless someone directs something at me (or if someone starts harassing anyone in the group I will tell them to stop being rude) or if I choose to join Mentor Roulette then I am ready to type out explanations etc.

I don't hate other people or something I am just having fun in my own way; you can't force people to chat if they don't feel like it. If you try to force them or get offended if people don't then you are just getting irritated about something that in the end doesn't really affect you. It is not like a healer not healing or a tank not tanking. They just don't feel like chatting. You'll still get your run done.

[KitingGenbu]

I'm the "The DPS who ignores the fact that he has AOE skills" on drg at least. Why? Ultimately cause I dont care lol.

[Aillith]

I'm a whm who usually tries to keep stoneskin up on all party members through a run. Its not hard and it doesn't delay the party any if you cast on the tank as the last mob dies.

For any dps who get hit i just replace as and when needed during battle, usually towards the end.

I never expect a group to wait for it. Even protect - if someone runs off and misses initial cast, I will just cast it later mid battle. Its really not a big deal and you don't need to wait for these things between pulls.

Having it on is nice. It gives me more time at the start of a pull to not need to heal immediately so I can Holy spam and stun mobs into oblivion.

[Lokier]

Mentors who, rather than give you a chance, attempt to kick you for making a mistake. Like, you're a mentor, f- off if you don't want to do your job.
Also, probably "ranged who stand up the bosses rump" .. Like, you're ranged, why are you in melee range with me and the other non-ranged DPS? I've never played another MMO where the ranged don't use their distance based abilities to their advantage.

[Khalithar]

Also, probably "ranged who stand up the bosses rump" .. Like, you're ranged, why are you in melee range with me and the other non-ranged DPS?.

Depends on the boss, sometimes this is the smarter move.

[Krazymagic]

Really all of these can be summed up to a player who is simply less skilled. This is how skill is measured in a game like an MMO. Decision making, positioning, understanding. Its easy to spot a player who is pretty capable based on these characteristics, no matter the role they are playing. Tanks are the easiest to spot because of their role, and the fact that they dictate fights and kill speed more than anyone else. My biggest pet peeve are tanks who completely ignore mob positioning, and who have poor situational awareness. How many times have you seen a tank pull mobs just outside of ground AOE placed by a party member, or tank with the mob facing the entire group, or they tank mobs in a spot where its difficult for mnk,drg,nin etc to get their positional damage in. Another pet peeve with tanks is the total lack of defensive cooldown usage. I run into tanks often who completely ignore half of their abilities. I often ask in group chat when I notice they are never using their cooldowns, and some of the answers I get are comical. As someone who main tanks a lot I almost always have my camera positioned to watch the entire battlefield. I will constantly adjust mob placement if need be. If im in a tight area and I have a mnk, nin, drg who I know need space behind and on the flank of mobs, I position accordingly. If its a big pull of trash, I drag the mobs in such a way to make them as tight as possible to fit inside ground aoes, I also try to make sure all the mobs are facing one direction so positional damage is still easy. If its a boss fight where the boss is having to be moved a lot, I stay mindful of where every member of the party is at all times, and position the boss accordingly. If I notice the healer struggling, for whatever reason, I plan my cooldown usage to maximize efficiency and make their life easier. I make use of every single ability in the paladin action tree. There are little nuances that happen in every fight, and you can often notice a player who "gets it" and players who dont really have it.

You can make a list of common failures for all roles. If its someone in my fc I will try to engage failures constructively, and get them to think about things differently. If they arent using their cooldowns, I explain why its important to do so. I try to explain the "big picture", that by you being efficient, it makes the whole group more efficient.

[Knahli]

Why does it bother you if nobody says hello?, let their actions do the talking.

I don't think anyone(with exception to maybe one person) actually takes any offence to the fact; it's simply something that is noticed but forgotten about right after a run. The fact that is happens so frequently is what is most bizarre I think. I imagine it's a bit akin to that of a culture shock, you'd almost certainly noticed if someone didn't say "please" or "thank you" for example. Would you say nothing to a cashier in a small shop? If so then consider me equally surprised, it's just something that strikes people as odd. They're your teammates whether you like it or not, so they're not equivocal to a random stranger you sit next to on a bus and have literally 0 association with whatsoever. Everyone seems to be on the same page about not really wanting to strike up conversation or anything - in fact, I'd be a little jarred by it even though I know they only have good intentions - but not saying hello or "o/" or so much as emoting just comes across as refusing to acknowledge people because it's apparently too much effort to do so, and that's what seems peculiarly rude to some people.

Contrastingly, I don't really care how good or bad you are. Doing large pulls and finishing a dungeon in a timely manner is not impressive to me, it's simply playing your role to the best of your ability given your current mood and mental state at the time. I'm not particularly interested in giving anyone a mental ?/10 rating by the end of the run. If you can muster up a friendly "hello" and "goodbye/thank you", two simple phrases at some point throughout an entire twenty-minute+ period then consider my attention earned. An unfortunately low standard but that's how things are.

[StouterTaru]

The scared tank

I ran into one of these in 31-40 PoTD last week. He was excited initially about having 2 healers in the party for some reason, but after 2 or 3 floors of lagging 10-30 seconds behind the rest of the party he said something along the lines of 'I'm going before this lalafell with delusions of tankdom gets us all killed,' then he left the duty.

The other annoying tank is the middle of the pack tank. He runs into the middle of some mobs, and uses flash. Most of the mobs are smacking him in the side/back, so their attacks can't be blocked or parried. But more importantly, I can't effectively AoE because the group is so spread out.

Another I would add is cuddle healers. There's a reason I'm standing away from you and keep moving when you move on top of me; I don't want to dodge twice as many targeted AoE attacks.

Also, probably "ranged who stand up the bosses rump" .. Like, you're ranged, why are you in melee range with me and the other non-ranged DPS?

Several bosses have mechanics that are easier to deal with up close. Boss randomly turns and does giant cone AoE, good luck dodging that from max range if you're in the middle. Unless I have a reason not to stand at melee range, I'm there, not the other way around.

[Tint]

when my co-heal is casting protect and stoneskin 2 RIGHT AFTER I HAVE CASTED IT >.<

and healers who recast protect every 5 minutes - it's a 30 min buff...