Some annoying behaviors and perceptions

[Vivi_Bushido]

The ghost people.
Those who never say a single word throughout an entire dungeon. Say just a Hello in the beginning. English is not your first language? It is not my first language too. You have an awesome Auto Translate feature too. Use it and be polite. Also when you are first time say it. For the love of god when you don't know something and you need tips just ask for them. Nobody will crucify you or kick you out. I can't read minds and guess who is the first timer when you try to hide it for whatever reason you believe you have to hide it. I can't tell you the combat tactics when I don't know for what job I need to give directions. Just speak.

I'm guilty of this one, but that's because I have no interest in making friends with you. Like I'm sorry, forgive me, but I don't. It's not like we can meet up after the instance and run again. It's roulettes with random people from other servers that I will never ever see again. So if your playing your class/job correctly, I have absolutely no reason to speak to you. Maybe some light chuckle conversation, but otherwise, I just want to get the dungeon over with as swiftly and quickly as possible, and stopping to take time to type can delay the dungeon from being completed faster.

[Vivi_Bushido]

Yes I forgot those too. The ones who know they have to feed their kid or their cat in few minutes and despite knowing this they join a dungeon with DF only to screw it. Real life come first people. Do not join dungeon when you know you have some real life priorities the next few minutes. It's an online game and you can't pause it.

I've been in several dungeons where I queued for roulette, and as soon as we got in, the tank says "Brb, need to smoke a cigarette". So now we stand here for 5mins cause we can't vote kick while this guy smokes... You couldn't have done this before queuing? >_>

[LaylaTsarra]

I die lots when taking the time to chat in FC chat... not a good idea to do that in the duty as well given can't really focus on a rotation. I'll be happy to engage convo though if directed between pulls. Just not a lot to talk about frankly when playing and trying to get stuff done.

[AlexanderThorolund]

Your apology for this thread is accepted OP.

[FinaSel]

Okay, a PLD wanting extra defense vis stoneskin is annoying? And you get upset when a PLD does it instead of you?

Sounds selfish to me. A, "I wanted to SS you", kind of thing?

That's not what I mean at all.
What I wanted to say is it's completely unnecessary to stop and use Stoneskin before every single pull. Especially when we can go through an entire pull without me even needing to use a single healing spell. (Dungeons are really easy).

I am not saying that I am upset because the Paladin used it instead of me. I get upset because they stand around doing nothing, probably waiting for Stonestone from me. But they never ask for it. They never say a word.

And then they cast it on themselves.

It's really not necessary. At least if they want Stoneskin before every encounter, they should cast it on themselves immediately after the last encounter.

[LaylaTsarra]

And then they cast it on themselves.

LOL, some of them don't even give you time to cast it when you enter the spawn point. I suppose it's not a big deal but how about they focus on their job instead of trying to do the job of others. Maybe I should just heal the dps and let him heal him/herself too. Then we have those who run away before you can even cast the buffs.

[Knahli]

Sometimes tanks will wait for their cool downs before a pull, which is absolutely fine to do. It's better than running into a group of mobs and the healer having to spam cure because he has no cool downs.

Runaway healers are annoying, yes. If you get aggro you should stand still and allow the tank to take the mobs from you.

Some AoE's are situational, a DRG is going to get 3 mobs down much quicker using single target than AoE. Some AoE's are also not worth using the TP compared to just DPSing them down single target.

Nobody is obliged to speak to you, some people are quiet by nature or may have had a bad day. If they're playing well, you shouldn't really be complaining that they don't speak. I agree with asking for tips though, that's a different matter if it's going to affect the party.

I don't get the waiting part, sorry >_< ; It hasn't been a problem for me really so I wouldn't dare complain about it, but waiting on cooldowns seems a little odd to me. Normally I try to line up my timings so I have the ones I need for the big pulls that actually have a chance of hurting but I can usually manage without even if the timing was a little off due to high DPS or accidental usage etc. Waiting on cooldowns just sounds like a strange waste of time to me, and not in the "I'm in a super rush all of the time, how dare you" kind of way, but rather a "I don't exactly mind waiting on you, but why is this an issue?" way.

As for the Ghost Players, of course no-one is obliged to speak to anyone but this is a bit of a pet peeve of my own too. I'm not interested in hearing your life story nor making idle conversation even, but it boggles my mind when people are so wrapped up in themselves that they can't say a simple "Hello" and "Thanks for the run" throughout a whole run. It just comes across as really rude to me - to the point that you'll likely earn my commendation simply for having the capacity to do so in any given run, which is a sad standard really.

LOL, some of them don't even give you time to cast it when you enter the spawn point. I suppose it's not a big deal but how about they focus on their job instead of trying to do the job of others. May I should just deal the dps and let him heal him/herself too. Then we have those who run away before you can even cast the buffs.

I.... I have occasionally run off at the very start while completely forgetting about Protect and Stoneskin(albeit I usually run with my friend who is a healer anwyays). I feel guilty once I remember, but the reason is that I sometimes pop Sprint at the start to so I can have a speed boost + enough TP to get by in the first pull so I can hurry along and group up the first pack for everyone nice and quick so they can jump right into it. I'm not someone who's really into their speed runs or anything, but I know some people like them so I try to make it convenient for them even if it's just a tiny thing.

[Sigiria]

So running a marathon in corridors pretending you are Lara Croft is the right thing? Maybe you didn't understand what I'm saying and for what situations I'm talking about. Tank CAN'T pull the mobs back if you are running away. It's just not possible. You can move to dodge AoEs but running down the hallways all the way to another room is just plain stupid. Yes you can blame the tank if he is not taking the mobs back but running away means the tank CAN'T take aggro back no matter what. It's just the wrong thing to do.

Maybe you didn't understand what he was saying, bringing back the mob to the tank as a healer or dps because you managed to get the aggro is actually less dangerous.
Seen a few tanks running after a mob they lost pulling the pack out of dps aoe, toward ranged dps and healer, get them cleaved real good, and lose the other mobs while trying to get the aggro on that one mob that ran away.
If the guy that got the aggro just come close enough to the tank's aggro aoe none of this should happen

[Bebekurenai]

Might want to add those white mages, summoners or machinists who constantly push the monsters away from the group. Everytime the cooldown is up WOOSH away from everyone else just because they can. Rather than have Garuda (or carby if arcanist) on obey (I have her on obey mainly for that reason), and push mobs towards the tank or into the crystal light in Darkhold (situation where fluid aura is actually useful). These poeple ignore the fact that they draw monsters away from the tank's reach and also interrupt casters when they have that particular mob targeted and casting a spell. They just spam it everytime it's up, well, because it's up and they wanna look busy doing stuff.

Also I agree completely on the polite thingy. No excuse at all to not say a simple hello at the start of the duty. We are people after all, do you do that in real life too? I don't want to be your friend either, and chances are, we won't meet again. But for that run, please don't be so rude. You guys who do that, don't realize how lonely you make people feel like this. I don't want to marry you, I dont want you to tell me your life story, I dont care if you remain quiet the rest of the run. Just a little hello or /wave. And if you have a bad day, saying hello and being greeted back actually will make you feel better. You will have new temporary friends that will disappear from your life as you click the exit, so you have no responsibility towards them after. Saying hello doesn't tie you to anything. It's basic education towards others.

[KokonoeAiyoko]

That's not what I mean at all.
What I wanted to say is it's completely unnecessary to stop and use Stoneskin before every single pull. Especially when we can go through an entire pull without me even needing to use a single healing spell. (Dungeons are really easy).

I am not saying that I am upset because the Paladin used it instead of me. I get upset because they stand around doing nothing, probably waiting for Stonestone from me. But they never ask for it. They never say a word.

And then they cast it on themselves.

It's really not necessary. At least if they want Stoneskin before every encounter, they should cast it on themselves immediately after the last encounter.

I have endgamed healed in FFXI as well as this game, and well I've played each role this particular game has to offer and I generally apply Stoneskin before every encounter. Why? Because it is efficient to not have to worry about 1-2 seconds of damage in-between wanting to DPS more as healer at startup. On the flip side, if the Tank some how gets this before me (which is never), I would find no qualms with it and would actually appreciate it as it cuts down on the initial pull and I can DPS longer.

As Tank, if I need Stoneskin, I generally ask for it, but if I'm doing multiple large pulls and I have to stop each time to ask for Stoneskin, that in itself is inefficient use of time.

Although, to be honest, I generally just play with my team and if they do not do these things I wish, it doesn't bother me since no matter how efficient you play this game, no one is really going to play perfect and winning a dungeon 2 minutes sooner is not worth grief. Rather everyone just enjoy the game and we win.