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  1. #11
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    WinterLuna's Avatar
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    Indira Light
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    3 or 4.

    SE have implemented a lot of little things that the Western community have requested and I don't think it's coincidental. Right from when they added Fantasia potions to the Mog Station up until alowing us to buy mounts with totems.

    Whether they listen or not, the only way we can show SE what we want is by telling them, negative and positive opinions included.
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  2. #12
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    Jax-Majutsu's Avatar
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    1 - Just look at the EU campaign for the butler stuff.
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  3. #13
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    Fina Sela'dor
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laerune View Post
    3. Fix the stuff that we have requested of you. Just because the Japanese community (Yoshida's word, not mine) are oke with the GC requirement for PvP, does not mean all of us are.
    I occasionally read the JP forums too and they are absolutely not OK with the GC requirement for PvP.
    There is a thread about how the developers should stop the GC requirement.

    It currently has 241 likes.
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  4. #14
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    Lone-wolfe-02's Avatar
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    C'eleanor Greywolfe
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    A solid 3 they gave us servers we long requested but after this whole EU campaign it has damaged my view of them.
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  5. #15
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    Kori Fleming
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    2. Sometimes our ideas get passed along. Rarely they get approved or listened to.
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  6. #16
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    K'nahli Yohko
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jax-Majutsu View Post
    1 - Just look at the EU campaign for the butler stuff.
    That's not even close to being a valid argument. Just because you don't get your way it doesn't mean your concerns weren't noticed or that the Japanese community would have achieved a different result had the same thing happened to them.


    As for my opinion, I cant really give a vote. I have no evidence nor reason to believe that they have listened to any one side more than the other. I know many, many features requested by Western players have been implemented but I don't know how many requested by the Japanese community have been, nor if they had any vocal opinions on the same features we had been looking for - and frankly I find this topic to be a bit redundant; not so much in it's legitimacy as a question posed by the OP, but rather peoples' responses or inability to do so with any sane measure of objectivity. So far I haven't seen anyone with hard, factual opinions on what the JP community have requested and received and what they have not received to line up against everyone else. All I see is mostly "We didn't get X. They don't care about us", "I bet if we were Japanese they would care", and that's honestly such a tired argument I see all over the internet these days. People like accusing these Eastern companies of catering to the desires of people closer to home at any given opportunity but as far as I can tell they are just mindless accusations with no real evidence to support it. It could be true, sure, but I think most people are so used to hearing that excuse that they throw it around themselves even though they have no clue what they are talking about.
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  7. #17
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    silentwindfr's Avatar
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    Florence Leduc
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    honestly i want to give them more, but i will be blunt, it's a 1 of 5....
    a few point that prove this fact:
    - 1) live letter in the past was subs and posted in less of 1-2 week after it was live, since the release they don't do it, leaving a large part of the community out of this, where it's still the main source of information about the game, yes we get q/a in the forum, but often they left out information or sentence said by yoshida that hold some hint about futur content. if western player was concidered, they will make this simple work, because let's face it, SE have translator and it don't take that must time to subs a live letter, sub team can do it in less of 1 day for anime and they are often not professional.

    - 2) a lot of the content release recently are clearly asian oriented, like the diadem, monster party was hated in the V1 and was asked out and what we do have? a gigantic monster party mode.... same we did ask for less linear, jump roping content and we still get that (even if i admit some part of the japanese community have complain about it)

    - 3) for a nerf to happend, it need to be massive on japanese forum, don't expect that some nerf are done based on our forum, only japanese are really listened, and it was often said and proved. the nerf only really happend, when japanese community become vocal.

    i can continue for long, i have often pointed this part of the lack of consideration for the western player. and one of the most nice example is the anniversary live, for 14 hours they will do a live, for japanese, indeed they are japanese, but can't we get something? not everyone is talking japanse! don't the european and na branch can organize something? don't we deserve to be part of the party? we are left out and it upset me soo bad.

    we are treated like second rate citizen for long and nothing go in the right sense, don't get me wrong i know that the na and european try them best, but let face it, they lack manpower or tool for be really there with us and share what is said on japanese forum, we often need to wait 1 week (if not more) for get an information that was posted on the japanese forum by a dev, it can't continue, they need to be more open and have a more clear communication with us, we feel left out and we are most of the time left out, i can understand that the dev don't always talk english, but i doudt se with soo many branch and company out in the world don't have people that are hired for translate stuff.

    time to have a more open communication and i hope we will get it before it's too late.


    more poll are needed, more information and faster need to be give ot us, not 1-2 week later, if it happend on the jap forum, the next day we must have it, it's not that hard... if they don't have enough people, time for SE to give yoshi-p the team he deserve for a game that have 5M customer (from them) we are not a small group.
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  8. #18
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    Ryu Saarva
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    what? have we asked for something?
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  9. #19
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    Jacien Visenad
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    They don't.

    All dev posts posted are just translated Japanese dev posts when Japanese players ask questions. Aside from times when a community team member is talking about things not related to the game's features.

    Remember when Reinhart used to do the translations for dev posts? That's when it became obvious. Because an English dev post would be made, and everyone already knew it.

    I found it interesting how the US Fanfest in 2014 didn't have a "Ask Yoshi-P" Panel, while the EU and JP Fan Fests did.

    Also, it's painfully obvious that all Live Letter questions are picked long before, and the threads asking for questions are just an illusion making you think that players' voices matter.
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    Last edited by Jacien; 07-31-2016 at 11:25 PM.

  10. #20
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    Toki Tsuchimi
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    Siren
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    I don't feel the other player bases are listened too as much as the Japanese ones, which is a shame but understandable. It's always easier to comprehend something in ones own language over a different one. I do feel that the devs should listen to the other communities more for a single player perspective. Japanese people are good at playing individuals but are really a group at heart. Where as the rest of us are the opposite true individuals but okay as a group, occasionally.

    But for some things we have to remember that each country has different laws and procedures. Why is no one asking about the Chinese or Korean versions and their community?

    日本人のディベロッパーは時々外人の目がきくんだ, lol?
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    Last edited by Eloah; 08-01-2016 at 03:44 AM.
    I like helping people with their Job ideas, it's fun to help them visuallize and create the job they'd like to play most. Plus I make my own too, I'll post them eventually.

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