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  1. #11
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    Vexerus's Avatar
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    Vexerus Dracarys
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    Hyperion
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    Arcanist Lv 23
    Alliance system would be nice for sure. However each of these NMs can be farmed with just one party. Here's an example of a 1 party kill at Natalan.



    Key drop rate sucks and chances of getting an item from chest is even worse. 0/20 hurray!
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  2. #12
    Player Shosasosa's Avatar
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    Shosa Sosa
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    Excalibur
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Neko the gear is good, but its not as good as the effort it takes to get it. The only thing it allows is stats that you cant add with materia. for example you cant get enmity on a body piece but the sorcerer's robe gives you -5. the other stats are also unique to that piece except the MP which is less than felt or vintage robe. the only reason to have these pieces is to max out on a specific stat for a set or something. like Vex just said they killed the Natalan boss 20 times and got nothing. Even in XI when u went to Dynamis Xarc, all those pieces were really good cuz they gave u stats you couldnt get anywhere else, but even on a bad run you would still get 3-4 pieces and say you had something to show for it, on top of the currency. With this system all you get is random armor and crafting materials that can be bought for cheap from the wards. the Effort to reward ratio is way out of balance.
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  3. #13
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    Zavier Mhigo
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    Hyperion
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    The whole sets aren't worth the time but certain pieces are good for certain situations, you can't put enmity minus materia on your head, you actually can only put it on your belt, and I'm sure most of us know. Some of the gear which drops out of the stronghold chest have enmity stats on gear you couldn't otherwise get with materia, nor could you get more enmity +/- with materia, the best situation would be to stack the belt and the few gear pieces from the stronghold chests with enmity stats on them when it's needed. The rest of the gear is rubbish. Effort wise I can see that, I assume they wanted us to go in there with 2 parties of 8 and trade off on drops, that is a lot of collective action :/ I'm sure a party of 8 50s fully materia'd can do it themselves, to get a few pieces here and there, but its still not worth the effort. Personally give us an AF set, Yoshi-P I'm talking personally to you, none of this "oh depends on what is artifact to you?", you know what the heck we mean when we say artifact, classic gear, with moderately good stats, medium level of difficulty for obtaining the gear. Then make gear that drops with lots of effort from stronghold bosses better than gear with 1 piece of materia, but not better than a gear piece with 2 materia, risk/reward, how hard is that.
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    Last edited by zaviermhigo; 11-13-2011 at 02:32 PM.

  4. #14
    Player Shosasosa's Avatar
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    Shosa Sosa
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    thats pretty much what im saying. The amount of effort to obtain these moderately above average pieces is higher than obtaining relic "not artifact" gear in XI, and i dont wanna hear that you cant compare the 2 games, cuz it has the same races, same name, and a lot of the same developers.
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