Is it just me or is the gear in these chests (and the other chests to a lesser degree). Not worth the time and effort. For the chests you need to kill an NM, which you usually need a full party of 50s to kill, then it will SOMETIMES drop a key to one person, who then opens the appropriate chest and has a CHANCE to get the item inside......

This becomes even worse when you go after the boss chests because it takes more than one full party of 50s to kill. So the party that does not claim has no chance of getting anything from the boss, not even the achievement for killing it. And the aforementioned dropping and chest loot system applies again.

I think that for one there should be an alliance system if some parts of the game require more than one party to accomplish, and either make it so the boss or key monster ALWAYS drops a key, OR the chests ALWAYS yields the item it is supposed to. in the case of the boss chests the boss should drop more than one key since there is more than one chest. The way it is now you can bring 16 people to farm items, and do that for 3+ hours and get NOTHING. Massive time sink.