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  1. #91
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    Quote Originally Posted by cakesphere View Post
    YES! The reference to the crank-a-kai had me super excited. Then it dropped every pretense of being a crossover event and was just like "HERE RUN SOME FATES LOL"
    Yeah, maybe some more GATE like stuff for the event would've been really great, they seem silly enough to fit with how the IP kinda is.. Also wish they would've done that silly Yokai Watch dance, that would've been a neat reward too.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    Some suggestions I would make for the weapon gind, either make legenday medals always drop or don't increase the amount you need and keep rng. At the rate am going not sure if I can finish before the event is done.
    Yeah, anything to make it less of a pain in the butt would be great. Even at a flat 7 medals per weapon, that's still about 360 fates with a 25% drop roughly speaking.
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    I'm a giant dragon and heretic sympathizer and I love character customization

    See my thread about equalizing the heights for men and women of each race! http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/253435-A-suggestion-regarding-height.

  2. #92
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    But what happens when RNG hates you that much and you grind two hours for no medal or maybe 1 or 2 and this goes on for some days? Suddenly the time runs out too fast and you will not be sure to even make it. And not everyone can play everyday or even long hours a day, so having to farm at least 3 or more medals a day to finish it might be too much since there are still other activities in the game that people want to do. I am still not sure why exactly the people of Yokai Watch wanted it to be such a grind? Is this a forecast about the grind in their own game (have no glue about it)? Just because Hino thinks that the game needs to be harder does not mean that a timed event should be such a time consuming grind, especially since the last mount is not even much different from the first one..And lets not forget that this might make quite some people angry if they don't manage to finish their weapons in time..(But YoshiP did say that not everyone will get them so..its seems they are totally okay with making people angry that put in the effort but got kicked by RNG or RL issues..)

    I finished it on Monday with 648 fates done and I will certainly not look at Yokai Watch positively..maybe if they used more cutscenes instead of just those at the beginning and less grind than I might have some interest in it, but they did not even explain that much about the yokais..most information is in the description of the minion.

    I did not find the fates hard..really I watched some lets plays at the same time to keep myself from falling asleep..even changing regions did nothing to help for that matter. You could have put some medals behind dungeons that are barely run anymore to help some newer players through the story, or even behind the old 24 raid to make it alive...at least people would have other possibilities to get these legendaries.

    Just not sure how its a good event if its mindless, or not exciting and having lots of prices also don't make it a good one. A event should be fun and the prices should only be a small incentive for doing more than the minimum. And having too many prices like minions and mounts are also not that great, since there are a lot of people that like to collect those things and are kinda "forced" to do the event or they would miss those mounts. (Yes its still a choice, but a really hard one as a collector especially since this time we cant be sure that it will end up in the mogstation) They could have put in those minions like they did but maybe have smaller prices for those that still wanted to do some more fate farming, like special fire works and things like that.

    Welp I am at least done with it and wish everyone good luck and lots of legendaries, and hope that something like that wont be part of a event again..
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    Last edited by Alleo; 08-03-2016 at 10:36 PM.

  3. #93
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    I agree with the OP. This just feels immersion breaking. They may as well take that one suggestion and add a DC/Marvel cross-over event now. It'll make as much sense as this, though I imagine more players would enjoy it than they do this.
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  4. #94
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    OP -

    I love the event.

    Incoming fresh perspective - doing the fates, to me anyways, is a stroll back memory lane. I get to lvl untouched jobs, collect company seals, and receive cool looking weapons, minions, and mounts. I am having a blast.

    The grind of fates is not that horrible. I am a casual player and I am half way through the event. Spend an hour a day and you will be fine. No rush hustlers. Also, if the grind is mind numbing. I don't know, talk to the other Yo-kai fate grinders. I have met several awesome people just by chilling.

    Also, I do feel it is silly to want guarantee drops on legendary medals. Nothing is free, and by having a disclaimer on rebuttals, does not make your post valid, true, or noteworthy.

    By the way, I have bought the new Yo-kai videogame and their advertising has worked on me. LOL! I have no shame.

    Thanks Yoshi-P!
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  5. #95
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    I don't think SE is to blame here but the playerbase, there are many people happy with this sort of content, I think doing 700 fates is a very poor way of entertaining yourself xd but some people seem to be happy about it. The only thing I can do myself is ignore it and expect others to ignore it too, but the latter isn't in my hands. The 13 minions and the 1st mount looked reasonable to me so I did them, the weapons and the second mount look too much like the old Atma to even step in.
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    Last edited by Gallus; 08-03-2016 at 11:22 PM.

  6. #96
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    Quote Originally Posted by Falmer View Post
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    My dude, it's fine to like doing fates, but relying on them and making us do roughly 800 of them is both badly designed and just not too enjoyable for 90% of the playerbase. I've met some folks doing this, and basically everyone I've seen just goes "Yeah this is it for now, it's getting to be a bit too boring. See ya" and before you know if that fate party you were in is basically gone. And an hour a day figure is pretty warped all things considered, considering I've seen Also how in the world is doing 222 FATEs free? The point of the disclaimer is to hopefully prevent players from going and asking the same old questions.. Y'know, just like you did with the "Nothing is free" bit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gallus View Post
    I don't think SE is to blame here but the playerbase, there are many people happy with this sort of content, I think doing 700 fates is a very poor way of entertaining yourself xd but some people seem to be happy about it. The only thing I can do myself is ignore it and expect others to ignore it too, but the latter isn't in my hands. The 13 minions and the 1st mount looked reasonable to me so I did them, the weapons and the second mount look too much like the old Atma to even step in.
    The playerbase putting up with this sorta stuff is definitely pretty indicative of some further bad trends with the community. Like, I'll never get how folks are so game content that's literally just doing /levelsync and then hitting 1, 2, and 3 over and over. I mean honest to god I think doing the like 72 FATEs for the base mount and minions is pretty easy that anyone can do it without it being a pain, but I don't see how anyone can say doing roughly ten times that amount is totally reasonable and okay
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    I'm a giant dragon and heretic sympathizer and I love character customization

    See my thread about equalizing the heights for men and women of each race! http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/253435-A-suggestion-regarding-height.

  7. #97
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    Quote Originally Posted by Falmer View Post
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    My problem is that you can have super bad RNG and go a very long time without medal drops. Like I said, my worst medal was USApyon. OLN is the easiest place to farm, you have zero downtime due to the two kobold FATEs and it STILL took me 161 fates for 30 medals.

    I think the easiest solution would be adding the option to buy legendary medals for regular medals. That way even if your luck is bad you can still turn in like idk 25 reg medals in for a legendary.

    Would make the grind a lot less awful if you knew you were guaranteed at least one medal for every x amount of fates

    Quote Originally Posted by Gallus View Post
    I think doing 700 fates is a very poor way of entertaining yourself xd
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  8. #98
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    I am too bored and will bite.

    Generalizing the FF 14 community to support your claim is inaccurate and just not logical. This claim will only be supported if they change the legendary drop rate. If they do, I surrender. If not, keep your exaggeration to yourself. Just silly. The game has always been grindy. Yo-kai watch breaks your back. Funny.

    An hour a day is warped? I like this. I am not quite sure what your point was, except for an hour a days is warped, but ok. 222Fates is free? Cool story.

    Lastly, I did not ask a question and was stating my opinion. Not sure what your last part was about, but it was lovely. I was stating that you have disclaimers to avoid rebuttals. You should be able to defend your stance on all accounts. If anything, posting all the arguments doesn't help your case, it just smothers you against the wall. Reading comprehension is fun.

    *plays Yo-kai watch on 3ds*
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  9. #99
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    @Falmer: Its fine if you liked it ^^ and maybe you got really lucky? One hour per day for this event is only possible if you get at least four medals in a hour otherwise the time would not be enough to finish it. And people already wrote that they got like 3 medals in three hours so no depending on your luck 1 hour per day is not enough. And maybe someone can only play two hours a day or even only three days a week so they will have quite the problem to finish this event. (Lets not forget that there is more content than that ingame some might not want to use all of their play time to get the medals especially if they wont get one)

    It would still be kinda bad if this was without a time limit but making it such a grind as a one time event with only a limited time too is not nice.

    The part about 222 fates is free was probably sarcastic and an answer to your sentence how it would be free if we get one for certain. Even if they made the legendaries a 100% drop would still mean that you have to do 222 fates which should be way enough for a event. (Where its nothing but glamour as prices..not even end game weapons or something) Heck I even found the 80 items for the anima weapons much more enjoyable than this event because we had more ways to gain those items..(and thats says a lot since I did not like it that much too)

    He does not generalize the whole community he is, like you, only stating his opinion and in hope of stopping those people that visit such threads only to post all these standard answers he put on this disclaimer and even took his time to answer each of these with his own arguments so he did defend his stance.

    Its really nice if you liked it and that you bought Yokai watch and its not wrong to like it but its also not wrong to dislike it.
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    Last edited by Alleo; 08-04-2016 at 11:48 PM.
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  10. #100
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    'What is the meaning of life, SE?'
    SE: 'FATE!'

    It makes sense to do this kind of event, thought doubtful they could come up with anything more interesting, during the free login campaign. Plus I have a reason to visit the old areas with a friend I got recently into the game, turn off my brain and level stuff. Will try to get everything, since I kind of like the goofy glamours but this is far from quality entertainment.

    And concerning RNG, there should always be a fail-save, like the 99 primal token birds.
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