Complaints Concerning the Yokai Watch Event

[Cakekizyy]

It took me 720 fates just for the weapons. I did the 72 fates to get all the minions before I started working on the weapons.

Why do that instead of working on both at same time?

[CUTS3R]

It's about right. it took me 696 Fates for every weapons alone, to that add the 75 required to get every minions. I kept the Watch equipped after i got all medals so i could keep track of the number of Fates i did.

[Maleficent]

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From a chocobo egg!

[KrenianKandos]

It took me exactly the amount of FATEs to get all 13 minions to simply get two weapons (DRK and PLD)

I'm not doing the rest. The reward of the mount and the weapons themselves (aren't even that good looking, imo) make it that this is a bust event for me. I'm not in the mood to FATE grind anymore for events. FATEs have burnt me out of the game mostly because they push on them so much. I got the DRK one because DRK is my main class and it was a part of the grind while I was getting the minions. I actually was able to finish the PLD one on the last fate for minion medals so that's great, but it never was a priority for me to finish.

[lulunami]

I still think doing 700 FATES is easier than controlling an uncontrollable chocobo with Tidus or dodging 200 Lightning Bolts in a row as Lulu in Final Fantasy X.

[Erudito]

I have several problems with this event.

Firstly: it over-involves FATEs. There are a great deal of us that have done over 5,000 FATEs in the course of our game time and are plenty sick of them at this point and the event is like a kick in the gut.

Secondly: RNG. While the drop rate is fairly high, at about 30%, it does not change the fact that the possibility of someone not getting the mount even after pouring more than enough time and effort into it continuously is present.

Third: the time needed. Some of us have many things to do during the day and only have between 2-5 hours of play a day.
If we want that mount we would then have to sacrifice other content of the game so we can even get a chance at getting that mount. Daily roulettes? Nah, just run 1 or 2 of them so you have time to FATE grind.
Crafting? Nope, takes too much time to get all mats if avoiding Market board, gotta FATE grind. Getting scripts and daily hunts/hand-ins? Dude, you have no time, gotta FATE grind. Beast tribes? Got. to. FATE. grind.
Doing content with friends or weeklies? Hahahahaha, no way man, gotta FATE grind. Palace of the Dead or Moonfire Faire? Sacrifice a little more of the above content for Faire and forget the Palace, gotta FATE grind.
This is of course for those with little time. It would not be so bad but the event has an expiration date.

And those are the problems I have this event in my opinion, please don't shoot me, its just my view of it. I would have enjoyed it much more if GATEs had a hand to play in the event, but we are stuck with just regular FATEs.

[Ragology]

I have several problems with this event.

Third: the time needed. Some of us have many things to do during the day and only have between 2-5 hours of play a day.

This is how often I get to play daily and it took me 7 or 8 days to get all the weapons. All I did was my daily roulette and then the fate grind, so all other forms of progress came to a halt but things worked out.

Spread over two months, I the grind doesn't seem so bad. I'm only focusing on it because I have alts to do.

[Alleo]

And that's why i quoted it. The ponies drop rate is still lower than legendary medals even after the buffs. Just commit to the grind or you don't want the mount hard enough.

The ponies can be farmed anytime people want and at least it was some sort of challenge before HW. This is a event which should be for fun and not a mindless grind. Getting this mount is not really hard (at least you don't need skill) its just boring, tedious and on top of that has a time limit and RNG. That is not something that many people find as fun.

There are already enough mounts like the one from Alex or the ones from achievements like the mentor one that people can work for and that will be quite rare but this one should not be one of them. If someone is doing the event he should be able to get it and putting in 11 hours (222 fates with 3 minutes per fate) would be already a lot for an event.

But I am also not someone that has less fun with their mounts just because a lot of people have them .
(I am also not feeling proud by owning the second mount..its ugly IMO and was not in any way fun and it also does not really need skills to get it..I had way more fun farming all those ponies..X_X) And yes not everyone can get everything in a MMO, at least not at the time the content comes out. But normally the content and the loot will stay so that maybe somewhere in the future its possible to do so. This has a limited time and it could happen that someone grinds fates everyday for two months and still wont get it because the RNG was bad for them..that is not very nice. I mean you need at least around 4 medals everyday to finish it and not everyone can play 2 or 3 hours a day. At least with older events people could hope to get the items on the mogstation after months have passed but this time we don't even know if its going there.

Even if they would have made it a 100% drop the second mount would still be not that common since not everyone wants to put in that much time and not everyone gets its because it was a event. But at least people would not be punished by RNG if they tried to grind for it, so it would still be a grind but a guaranteed one where you know that you will get something after 222 fates..and not have the time run out after doing 700 or more fates because you could not play every day or even just had bad luck.

Nobody want that someone can do it on the last day in two or three hours and get everything, there is still a middle ground between instant rewards and grinding your soul out.

In the end imo its quite rare in MMOs to have something that will always stay exclusive forever. There are some rewards like the 1.0 ones that will stay exclusive and thats fine but normally things grow easier over time and more and more people will own the rewards. And I see nothing wrong with that because people that got it when it was harder had a time period to feel special about it and after that you will make the other people happy too.


@Ragology: Well you still need to grind at least 3,7 medals a day to get all the medals if you spread it out for two months. So 25,9 a week. If you are only able to play on 4 days that would mean that you have to grind nearly 7 medals a day. If you have a 30% droprate that would make around 23 fates per day. (Hopefully I am calculating this right? XD) Thats a lot of fates that needs to be done to get it. Even if you can play everyday you would need around 13 fates a day to get those 4 medals. And all these numbers are if you have a droprate of 30%. You might get lucky one day but also quite unlucky the other. So really even over two months this does not feel like something fun and if someone has bad RNG it might even be impossible for them if they can only play a certain amount of time.

And before anyone says something, yes I do believe that someone that cant play much per week still should be able to get everything from this event. The two months should have been the safety net for someone that barely plays and not something that is necessary to even be able to finish if you don't have 5 hours a day.

[Archaell]

This parody of catch them all requires insane amount of fate grinding in short period of time. In two months I pretty much have to grind the same number of fates I managed to stomach since I started playing the game - which was about a year ago.

Personally I do not like fates. It's even more mind dumbing than hunts and it seems like one of the main flaws of FFXIV. Something that is there to help the botting and gil selling industry. Something to make sure players have no idea how the jobs work when they grind their way to the max level - if they do it themselves... and then there is also that awesome way the game scales the difficult - so much fun entering a zone that has been pillaged by the zerg train.

So my opinion is that if this event is supposed to make the players dislike the game and the whole yokai thing it is doing really great job.

[Samcaesar]

Nobody want that someone can do it on the last day in two or three hours and get everything, there is still a middle ground between instant rewards and grinding your soul out.

Agreed. Heck, I'm totally fine with some other suggestion that'd make the mount still a tedious pain in the butt, just less one. To me a 100% drop rate, that taking like 11 hours/222 FATES at 3 minutes per fate, was that middle ground. Part of my issue is to some folks the event is perfect as is and shouldn't be touched when obviously some folks aren't pleased with it.

Some alternatives that I've seen could've been -"Keep the RNG, just lower the amount needed for each to 7", that means you need 91 total, and at 30% you're still doing roughly 300 fates.- or "Keep fates as they are, but work some system in so that something like dungeons had a 100% drop rate" which would give players something else to do that also makes early dungeons more populated as well.