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    Zumi's Avatar
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    Zumi Kasumi
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    The problem with the event for me is I work 5 days a week, I spent most of my free time not at work doing the fate grind but I don't have good rng. I have finished 5 weapons so far but you know how the number keeps going up and the last 3 take 30. I only maybe have 2 hours or so a day to play if that. Been getting maybe 5-10 a day but I am afraid I will run out of time.

    Given the huge amounts of medals the weapons take leaves you not much time to do anything else in the game. Please buff the drop rate on the medals.
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    Blackmage Vivi
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    from start to finish the event has over 60 days (closer to 70) total average about 5 medals a day and you will complete it with extra time.

    course that is the base statement some days you could get lucky and get 5-6 in an hour and some times 0-2 i know when i was doing the grind i could go 20 fates without a medal and sometimes get 4 medals in a row rng is pretty mean but that's how it is.

    the only real advice here is the sooner you start the slower you can take it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    The problem with the event for me is I work 5 days a week, I spent most of my free time not at work doing the fate grind but I don't have good rng. I have finished 5 weapons so far but you know how the number keeps going up and the last 3 take 30. I only maybe have 2 hours or so a day to play if that. Been getting maybe 5-10 a day but I am afraid I will run out of time.

    Given the huge amounts of medals the weapons take leaves you not much time to do anything else in the game. Please buff the drop rate on the medals.
    If you get 5 legendary medals per day you will make it no problems. You only need 222 legendary medals. 5x60 days is 300 legendary medals.
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    But what happens when RNG hates you that much and you grind two hours for no medal or maybe 1 or 2 and this goes on for some days? Suddenly the time runs out too fast and you will not be sure to even make it. And not everyone can play everyday or even long hours a day, so having to farm at least 3 or more medals a day to finish it might be too much since there are still other activities in the game that people want to do. I am still not sure why exactly the people of Yokai Watch wanted it to be such a grind? Is this a forecast about the grind in their own game (have no glue about it)? Just because Hino thinks that the game needs to be harder does not mean that a timed event should be such a time consuming grind, especially since the last mount is not even much different from the first one..And lets not forget that this might make quite some people angry if they don't manage to finish their weapons in time..(But YoshiP did say that not everyone will get them so..its seems they are totally okay with making people angry that put in the effort but got kicked by RNG or RL issues..)

    I finished it on Monday with 648 fates done and I will certainly not look at Yokai Watch positively..maybe if they used more cutscenes instead of just those at the beginning and less grind than I might have some interest in it, but they did not even explain that much about the yokais..most information is in the description of the minion.

    I did not find the fates hard..really I watched some lets plays at the same time to keep myself from falling asleep..even changing regions did nothing to help for that matter. You could have put some medals behind dungeons that are barely run anymore to help some newer players through the story, or even behind the old 24 raid to make it alive...at least people would have other possibilities to get these legendaries.

    Just not sure how its a good event if its mindless, or not exciting and having lots of prices also don't make it a good one. A event should be fun and the prices should only be a small incentive for doing more than the minimum. And having too many prices like minions and mounts are also not that great, since there are a lot of people that like to collect those things and are kinda "forced" to do the event or they would miss those mounts. (Yes its still a choice, but a really hard one as a collector especially since this time we cant be sure that it will end up in the mogstation) They could have put in those minions like they did but maybe have smaller prices for those that still wanted to do some more fate farming, like special fire works and things like that.

    Welp I am at least done with it and wish everyone good luck and lots of legendaries, and hope that something like that wont be part of a event again..
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    Last edited by Alleo; 08-03-2016 at 10:36 PM.

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    Rin Black
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    I agree with the OP. This just feels immersion breaking. They may as well take that one suggestion and add a DC/Marvel cross-over event now. It'll make as much sense as this, though I imagine more players would enjoy it than they do this.
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    OP -

    I love the event.

    Incoming fresh perspective - doing the fates, to me anyways, is a stroll back memory lane. I get to lvl untouched jobs, collect company seals, and receive cool looking weapons, minions, and mounts. I am having a blast.

    The grind of fates is not that horrible. I am a casual player and I am half way through the event. Spend an hour a day and you will be fine. No rush hustlers. Also, if the grind is mind numbing. I don't know, talk to the other Yo-kai fate grinders. I have met several awesome people just by chilling.

    Also, I do feel it is silly to want guarantee drops on legendary medals. Nothing is free, and by having a disclaimer on rebuttals, does not make your post valid, true, or noteworthy.

    By the way, I have bought the new Yo-kai videogame and their advertising has worked on me. LOL! I have no shame.

    Thanks Yoshi-P!
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    I don't think SE is to blame here but the playerbase, there are many people happy with this sort of content, I think doing 700 fates is a very poor way of entertaining yourself xd but some people seem to be happy about it. The only thing I can do myself is ignore it and expect others to ignore it too, but the latter isn't in my hands. The 13 minions and the 1st mount looked reasonable to me so I did them, the weapons and the second mount look too much like the old Atma to even step in.
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    Last edited by Gallus; 08-03-2016 at 11:22 PM.

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    Sylvia Valadis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Falmer View Post
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    My dude, it's fine to like doing fates, but relying on them and making us do roughly 800 of them is both badly designed and just not too enjoyable for 90% of the playerbase. I've met some folks doing this, and basically everyone I've seen just goes "Yeah this is it for now, it's getting to be a bit too boring. See ya" and before you know if that fate party you were in is basically gone. And an hour a day figure is pretty warped all things considered, considering I've seen Also how in the world is doing 222 FATEs free? The point of the disclaimer is to hopefully prevent players from going and asking the same old questions.. Y'know, just like you did with the "Nothing is free" bit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gallus View Post
    I don't think SE is to blame here but the playerbase, there are many people happy with this sort of content, I think doing 700 fates is a very poor way of entertaining yourself xd but some people seem to be happy about it. The only thing I can do myself is ignore it and expect others to ignore it too, but the latter isn't in my hands. The 13 minions and the 1st mount looked reasonable to me so I did them, the weapons and the second mount look too much like the old Atma to even step in.
    The playerbase putting up with this sorta stuff is definitely pretty indicative of some further bad trends with the community. Like, I'll never get how folks are so game content that's literally just doing /levelsync and then hitting 1, 2, and 3 over and over. I mean honest to god I think doing the like 72 FATEs for the base mount and minions is pretty easy that anyone can do it without it being a pain, but I don't see how anyone can say doing roughly ten times that amount is totally reasonable and okay
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    Quote Originally Posted by Falmer View Post
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    My problem is that you can have super bad RNG and go a very long time without medal drops. Like I said, my worst medal was USApyon. OLN is the easiest place to farm, you have zero downtime due to the two kobold FATEs and it STILL took me 161 fates for 30 medals.

    I think the easiest solution would be adding the option to buy legendary medals for regular medals. That way even if your luck is bad you can still turn in like idk 25 reg medals in for a legendary.

    Would make the grind a lot less awful if you knew you were guaranteed at least one medal for every x amount of fates

    Quote Originally Posted by Gallus View Post
    I think doing 700 fates is a very poor way of entertaining yourself xd
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    I am too bored and will bite.

    Generalizing the FF 14 community to support your claim is inaccurate and just not logical. This claim will only be supported if they change the legendary drop rate. If they do, I surrender. If not, keep your exaggeration to yourself. Just silly. The game has always been grindy. Yo-kai watch breaks your back. Funny.

    An hour a day is warped? I like this. I am not quite sure what your point was, except for an hour a days is warped, but ok. 222Fates is free? Cool story.

    Lastly, I did not ask a question and was stating my opinion. Not sure what your last part was about, but it was lovely. I was stating that you have disclaimers to avoid rebuttals. You should be able to defend your stance on all accounts. If anything, posting all the arguments doesn't help your case, it just smothers you against the wall. Reading comprehension is fun.

    *plays Yo-kai watch on 3ds*
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