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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormrider View Post
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    Umm... I look at both ice and vs players. Total damage. I'm talking like < 50000 worth of total damage.

    Granted that kills are not that important in shatter, but don't underestimate kills. Every kill grants your team a 15 point advantage. Especially on big ice 24 man; if you can score some kills during/right before ice then your team will get a rather big advantage. Or, rather, that team will get a disadvantage. The hard part is to know when to go for it. And it's more often than not a gamble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guesswhat View Post
    Or, rather, that team will get a disadvantage. The hard part is to know when to go for it. And it's more often than not a gamble.
    No, just no. This is half my frustration this week. Your logic is great in a two team system. Since very few people care about second they get great pleasure out of screwing the team that thought to kill them. You not only need to be awesome vs one team you need to be awesome vs two team. Since the game can't force someone to do objectives.

    To the 50k total not seeing the match and how they played and what they did, I still feel is subjective. If they just followed you around and didn't get any bursts on anything that sucks.

    I have had way to many kill chasers this week my head is going to explode. I just want people to play objectives and win or draw. Just wanted to add this picture of flames getting all these kills while they ignored ice.

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    Last edited by Stormrider; 07-31-2016 at 05:44 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormrider View Post
    No, just no...
    hmmm, I don't think you get what I'm saying...

    For total casual players I agree 100%. The idea I'm bringing forth is "knowing your place". If you assume your team can't get any kill/getting few kills at best, then it's obvious you should take the pve route. Half of the game is recognizing your team's resources. In my 24 shatter experience, there is usually 1 dominating team that get both the kills and the most pve damage (2nd most common is 1 noob team). I'm not saying it should be considered meta, but don't underestimate the power of a kill if you obviously have the resources.

    Again, this kinda boils down to skill level. 1 rape team vs 2 noob teams = rape team wins. Well... Unless tunnelvision takes over. I'm not saying you should assume it, but if you notice it, exploit it.

    And the team that gets a party member killed during ice (big ice obviously, small ice is not worth) gets a disadvantage. That is not equal to the "killing" team having the best outcome. That is blatantly true. But, again, only go for kills if you know you can. If all 3 teams are DPSing ice, the priorities changes.

    The battlefield is not written in stone. If you see an obvious advantage you should seize it. Not shatter the idea lol.
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