Someone has to say it...

[Nyxs]

People are free to voice their feedback whether good or bad as much as you don’t think so. I have played this game since 2.0 and I’m not going to say there is some great things about this game while also acknowledging there is some not as good stuff. I am sure they want to hear what we think as well.

[Nicodemus_Mercy]

I accept that there's content I won't always care for and I have little issue with such content being added to the game so long as it isn't mandatory to do. The only issue I've had with the past two expansions is the gating of the relic weapon behind content I despise, when it used to require content I enjoyed. I would have been happy if the Shadowbringers relic weapons continued with the option to complete them outside of Bozja instead of only letting us get to a certain point and then locking the rest of the progress behind content I don't enjoy. I'm not saying that the relics should only be acquirable through content I enjoy, but I'd like to see more alternative paths to acquisition so everyone can get their relic doing content they enjoy. I see nothing wrong with stating my displeasure with certain content or design decisions on the game forum. Gathering feedback for the developers is it's purpose after all.

With all that said, I am hopeful about Endwalker's relic acquisition. One of the live letters mentioned that relic acquisition would be different (though they didn't say how). I'm keeping my fingers crossed that the path to acquire our relics in Endwalker has more options so that players can do the content they enjoy and still make progress on them.

[Minarisweet]

This post has a lot of upvotes, which just shows how well players take feedback that isn't even for them, but for a multi billionar company that NEEDS and WANTS the feedback to make a better game. And to quote yoship in his 2.0 presentation:

[TroySoFab]

This post has a lot of upvotes, which just shows how well players take feedback that isn't even for them, but for a multi billionar company that NEEDS and WANTS the feedback to make a better game. And to quote yoship in his 2.0 presentation:

I wish the devs still thought like this. However it seems like any time some feedback is given, and there is an actual response; the response is something something limitations. With the amount of push back any real criticisms get from the forum base, its hard to see the devs attitudes changing since at every turn those excuses will be defended.

[Gameovers]

I wish the devs still thought like this. However it seems like any time some feedback is given, and there is an actual response; the response is something something limitations. With the amount of push back any real criticisms get from the forum base, its hard to see the devs attitudes changing since at every turn those excuses will be defended.

Alot of changes really ARE held back by limitations and stuff though. I know it sucks to hear but what if you know.. they are telling the truth. Shit it could be worst. you could've had whatever the hell Blizzard is. Case in point, They want to get new servers BUT the state of the world is kindof stopping them atm. Like it is everyone else.

[TroySoFab]

Alot of changes really ARE held back by limitations and stuff though. I know it sucks to hear but what if you know.. they are telling the truth. Shit it could be worst. you could've had whatever the hell Blizzard is. Case in point, They want to get new servers BUT the state of the world is kindof stopping them atm. Like it is everyone else.

When one excuse is rendered irrelevant, two more seem to show up in its place. I'm in no way asking or expecting SE to deliver ridiculous things. But a high res texture pack, better servers, content that isn't DOA; these are not impossible requests. Also, just because one company is worse doesn't somehow make this game better or excuse them from listening to players. And SE will never change as long as they are blindly defended, they'll only double down.

[Gameovers]

When one excuse is rendered irrelevant, two more seem to show up in its place. I'm in no way asking or expecting SE to deliver ridiculous things. But a high res texture pack, better servers, content that isn't DOA; these are not impossible requests. Also, just because one company is worse doesn't somehow make this game better or excuse them from listening to players. And SE will never change as long as they are blindly defended, they'll only double down.

Noone or atleast I'm not defending them to be defending them. Lets unpack your reply, On the DOA arrive thing.. that's abit hard. They can't read our minds and lets be real here, everyone is fighting on what is good and or bad and everyone has an opinion. the best thing to do is make the content and take the feedback and patch and improve. A Better servers I already addressed in my comment. They are trying.. but they CAN'T. It's not a money issue, they literally can't get them like most can't get PS5s right now. They even said if it was just a money issue they were willing to over pay. OVERPAY. I stress that because I was shocked by that. But because of Tom Clancey's the Division the parts and chips and things just aren't there. Can they improve on things.. OFCOURSE. But at least with the things you just named there are answers. It's just the answers that are here you don't want to hear. And I get it, but I'm just saying...

and on me mentioning it could be worse? I wasn't doing that to say stop speaking your mind. I was just trying to cast a bigger view then just saying " They forgot about us" No they didn't... if you wanna say that then let me point you to a company that actually HAS forgotten about it's playerbase. A high res texture pack is something I think they could do tho. I would enjoy that tenfold.

[Shin96]

First of all, criticism and hate are two entire seperate entities on their own.

Hate is the excessive use of aggression to illustrate ones point in an attempt to convey an opinion by a lack of emotional maturity.

Criticism is disassembling critical components in different categories to understand where one aspect falls short in comparison to another, for instance.

An example:

"Dungeon B is lacking in variety by mobs and mechanics. It's also poor in level-design as well as featuring a bad soundtrack. The final boss involves no movement or effort whatsoever."

Example for hate:

"Dungeon B sucks, I hate the developers because they have no idea what they're doing. Delete this dungeon it's an embarassement to the game overall."

Then there's the component of lack in faith by the playerbase. You cannot realistically create content for every player there is, so you have to maximize one aspect more prevalent than the other. That entails making decisions that profit SE, from a business standpoint it makes absolute sense some content is tailored to a specific group, but it can undermine the creative proccess of a breakthrough in terms of gameplay innovations which could translate well for many. Taking risks can often backfire, but there is value in making such decisions from time to time.

My personal opinion is, if you have reached adulthood and you fail to professionally convey your opinions, you should stop using the internet for your own good. This type of behaviour translates and bleeds into anything these people do. This goes for both sides unable to make level-headed decisions before saying anything. A developer is unable to work with incoherent feedback, so take that into consideration.