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    NorthernLadMSP's Avatar
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    Adore Mi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    Expect to be met with the same tepid arguments that you give the people currently giving feedback on the system.

    That's another sad fact is that nobody cares until it effects them usually.
    There is a big difference, to me personally, in paying for pointless fodder (aka an outfit, dye or glamour mount) vs. paying for an in-game advantage (aka paying for stats or instant leveling).
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    There is a big difference, to me personally.
    That's the rub though. You can say these things all you want but the trend has been pushing even further and further towards the future you don't want to happen.

    If the pay to receive market continues to grow it wont be long until they start to sell the most lucrative candy available (Power). This isn't even a new concept in the traditional games market buying power is a pretty common practice even in multiplayer games. Hell MMO's often offer instant leveling options and I can guarantee that if the moaning about length of time it takes to get from a new account to heavensward (Or whatever the new expansion is called) continues they will offer the option to pay to skip that "Hassle" as well.

    Some people act like these types of fears are unfounded when it's happened time and time again in the market. Just because SE hasn't done it to FFXIV yet doesn't mean they don't want to, any company would seeing how quickly it can wring cash from consumers. These practices make games less of an experience and more of a commodity where you wring it for all the cash it's worth and leave it to rot pouring your newfound funds into something else you can wring for cash quickly instead of a long term investment (Such as a subscription model)

    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    A vocal few have been complaining about the cash shop since its introduction, but it seems it's gonna be here to stay.
    I don't see what your point is. As long as they can goad anyone into using the service of course they will keep it around. That doesn't mean we should just be cool about every little thing they put into it.

    Look at it this way, the metallic dyes were a bust because beyond the few people hilariously gullible to purchase a temporary item like dye in the cash shop. What did they do with it after sales flagged and interest in it waned. They put the dyes in the game and even expanded the available dyes, sure the option to buy them still exists but it is also additional game content now instead of a separated thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    Hell MMO's often offer instant leveling options and I can guarantee that if the moaning about length of time it takes to get from a new account to heavensward (Or whatever the new expansion is called) continues they will offer the option to pay to skip that "Hassle" as well.
    That this isn't a speculative concern either. The instant leveling option was floated as a (hopefully) off-the-cuff comment by Yoshida.

    The way they handle any gating of 4.0 is definitely something worth watching.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    Hell MMO's often offer instant leveling options and I can guarantee that if the moaning about length of time it takes to get from a new account to heavensward (Or whatever the new expansion is called) continues they will offer the option to pay to skip that "Hassle" as well.
    After the xp got increased by a lot, we would not even need that. I just made an alt, to see how long it takes before commenting on one of the other forum posts. Now granted this is not meant for new players since they read the dialogs etc.

    But if you skip everything lore related and don't unlock most of the dungeons besides the ones that you actually need, then it takes from 1-50 a day and 14 hours. However the story line from 2.1 - 2.55 takes nearly 2 days and that's with skipping every pop up and cut scenes, but you gain so much experience during that time, that I found myself being nearly lvl 55 before even entering Ishgard.

    Now the story line 50-60 plus doing your daily roulette's, unlocking the HW dungeons and some of the side quests you need anyways for the aether currents, get you to lvl 60 before even unlocking the dravarian hinterlands and azys la. If you even want to skip that, you could run palace of the dead and do the full expansion as level 60 already.

    My conclusion is, that it takes around 4 -6 days getting your character from 1-60 without any hassle, and you have plenty of quests/dungeons/trials left to level another character since you skipped it prior, we do not need leveling potions. But then again, if some people would love to skip the 2 days it takes to finish msq 2.1-2.55 I am fine with that as well. Everybody can decide how to spend their money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    There is a big difference, to me personally, in paying for pointless fodder (aka an outfit, dye or glamour mount) vs. paying for an in-game advantage (aka paying for stats or instant leveling).
    well.... WoW used to only have cosmetics before.
    Take a look at it now. Insta 90 whoooo
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