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    Tee Hee
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    They really need to put it in game (in addition to cash shop if they want). So if someone wants to pay money, he can obtain it here and now, and someone who doesn't he can still obtain it eventually, but it will be some grind.

    P.S. It's called pay to win sadly, but a little bit better, than being unable to obtain it at all without paying additional money.
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    Beckard Arseneau
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    I've always laughed at people who bought mounts on the cash shop, but I've done so inwardly. With this mount, I don't think I'm going to be able to keep myself from openly mocking anyone I see with it.

    Quote Originally Posted by vp_cmc View Post
    They really need to put it in game (in addition to cash shop if they want). So if someone wants to pay money, he can obtain it here and now, and someone who doesn't he can still obtain it eventually, but it will be some grind.

    P.S. It's called pay to win sadly, but a little bit better, than being unable to obtain it at all without paying additional money.
    I'd rather we didn't have a cash shop at all, but if we have to have one I'd rather it remained completely separate. If they introduced this mount as a reward for say, doing 1,000 dungeons, or you could just buy it off the cash shop right away, I would be far more pissed at all the people that got it day one because they shelled out the cash, while anyone that doesn't want to waste their money has to spend ages farming for it.

    I still think that a cash shop has absolutely no place in a subscription based game, but having it be completely removed from the main game is the lesser of two evils.
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    Sonja Djt-bidit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beckett View Post
    I've always laughed at people who bought mounts on the cash shop, but I've done so inwardly. With this mount, I don't think I'm going to be able to keep myself from openly mocking anyone I see with it.
    That'll be a fun chat with the GM when you're reported for harassment.

    Jynx is right. You can agree or disagree with the cash shop without resorting to that kind of nonsense. The best case you can make to a company is with your wallet.
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    Last edited by Teryaani; 07-27-2016 at 04:25 AM.
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    Leif Flakkari
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    I love it, but I'm not paying 3200 yen for a mount! That's 2 months sub, it's insane.
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    Melorie Valliere
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    I'm so salty. I was so excited for that mount just to discover that it's on mogstation. :l
    I though I paid my sub so they could put content on the game and maybe recolours on mogstation. Sigh.
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    Last edited by Melorie; 07-26-2016 at 07:11 PM.

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    Aranie Crowley
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    Can we have some feedback from a japanese speaking player to see if they react / how they react to the addition of the mount in the CS please ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watachy View Post
    C'était en fait SE qui survolait Ishgard sur une liasse de billets

    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    People don't know how to take criticism anymore, and bad play is rewarded with with a coddling mentality. Yes, this is a casual game for the most part - that doesn't mean people need to walk on eggshells in fear of getting reported for pointing out things. This whole 'please don't say anything even slightly negative' mentality that we seem to be going towards and the devs seemingly pushing towards it is creating a disturbing trend.

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    Mirn Armaya
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    Shiva
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celef View Post
    Of course we don't HAVE to buy it but if we like it, we have no choice but to buy it. You can eat for 3 or 4 days with 21€, why only the rich ones could get that moubnt when we all, poor included, pay the same sub ?
    If people are as 'poor' as you are saying here, then the least of their problems should be that mount, more if they can afford a sub in the first place.

    Quote Originally Posted by Celef View Post
    I know but we should not have to BUY these in a sub game. Let them add these in CS, if we, all together, stop buyint these, they might stop adding them.
    I'm not against CS, i'm just against CS in a 13€ monthly game. At least make it F2P and do like some others MMO where, when you have a sub, you get CS money every month for supporting the game (like TSW - EQ2 - Rift etc).
    You do get a return out of extended subscription times, though Veteran rewards which most of them are exclusively tied to it.

    Quote Originally Posted by vp_cmc View Post
    P.S. It's called pay to win sadly, but a little bit better, than being unable to obtain it at all without paying additional money.
    There is no pay to win on this, other than you win over the others with your ego and that you can rub it in because you can afford such a thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrius View Post
    You do get a return out of extended subscription times, though Veteran rewards which most of them are exclusively tied to it.
    Sure, rewards we can't choose...i take those others games as exmaple but there, you can choose what your reward is, you can buy that awesone glam you've seen for months or that cool mount without having to pay more money that you actually do.
    I did not even take my last sub reward because it was a gob helmet that i find crappy and ugly, some of us may like it, i don't and i might not be the only one so why can't we just choose ?

    plus i don't care about having that "super exclusive item for sub players only who payed a year of sub" i'de be fine with that mount everyone can buy as long as it is my choice to buy it with the CS credits i get everyone month ^^"
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    Last edited by Celef; 07-26-2016 at 07:36 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Watachy View Post
    C'était en fait SE qui survolait Ishgard sur une liasse de billets

    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    People don't know how to take criticism anymore, and bad play is rewarded with with a coddling mentality. Yes, this is a casual game for the most part - that doesn't mean people need to walk on eggshells in fear of getting reported for pointing out things. This whole 'please don't say anything even slightly negative' mentality that we seem to be going towards and the devs seemingly pushing towards it is creating a disturbing trend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celef View Post
    Sure, rewards we can't choose...i take those others games as exmaple but there, you can choose what your reward is, you can buy that awesone glam you've seen for months or that cool mount without having to pay more money that you actually do.
    I did not even take my last sub reward because it was a gob helmet that i find crappy and ugly, some of us may like it, i don't and i might not be the only one so why can't we just choose ?
    Shame, I like the mask and the minion that came with my reward. But at least we do get somewhat frequently something out of our subs.
    WoW players had to sub for 10 years to get even a single thing, a statue, made for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrius View Post
    Shame, I like the mask and the minion that came with my reward. But at least we do get somewhat frequently something out of our subs.
    WoW players had to sub for 10 years to get even a single thing, a statue, made for them.
    And did they have, during those 10 years, to spend more money to get exclusive content via a CS like mount, Fabtasian, housing items ? (no sarcasm, real question cause i did not play WoW)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watachy View Post
    C'était en fait SE qui survolait Ishgard sur une liasse de billets

    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    People don't know how to take criticism anymore, and bad play is rewarded with with a coddling mentality. Yes, this is a casual game for the most part - that doesn't mean people need to walk on eggshells in fear of getting reported for pointing out things. This whole 'please don't say anything even slightly negative' mentality that we seem to be going towards and the devs seemingly pushing towards it is creating a disturbing trend.

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