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[Nuna]

Trading the future of the game for a vanity item to brag about. Because they belive, the money the spend on the vanity item is somehow invested back into the game.

The only way this game will ever develop further is when subscriptions drop and people stop feeding SE money. As they are now, they have absolutely no incentive to keep developing the game, the player base is steady, the cash shop works wonder to get the company extra money and the subscription probably is funding other projects/meeting investers expectatives while the dev team is basically doing "what they can with what they have".

EXCEPT they just added 3 new mounts in the game, obtainable ONLY BY PLAYING THE GAME. This ONE cash shop mount doesn't say much.

[Skivvy]

EXCEPT they just added 3 new mounts in the game, obtainable ONLY BY PLAYING THE GAME. This ONE cash shop mount doesn't say much.

But the argument of myself and of many others in this thread is that all items should be obtainable via an in-game method due to the fact we pay a monthly subscription. I would be perfectly fine with these things being a limited-time only event, and THEN moving to the cash shop, but we don't even have that option.

For those who are OK with our current cash shop - is it just that you've never experienced any alternative? As mentioned earlier, my first MMO was XI and I didn't know what cash shops were until I branched out to F2P games (yeaaaars down the road). I suppose if this is your first MMO, or you've only played newer games, you would know no better. This obviously won't be the case for everyone. Just a shower thought.

[Teryaani]

For those who are OK with our current cash shop - is it just that you've never experienced any alternative? As mentioned earlier, my first MMO was XI and I didn't know what cash shops were until I branched out to F2P games (yeaaaars down the road). I suppose if this is your first MMO, or you've only played newer games, you would know no better. This obviously won't be the case for everyone. Just a shower thought.

For me, that's not it. I came over from WoW which had a cash shop, but also had a very active anti-cash shop population. Quick caveat with WoW. I left during Mists right before the introduction of the pay for level option.

I have a different viewpoint of what I expect in my subscription. My viewpoint isn't right or wrong, but it is mine. As long as the vast majority of mounts, minions, vanity items, and clothing are available in game and the cash shop isn't being used to gate content or levels, I'm okay with it.

The moment that the company starts shifting large efforts into pay-for materials or does pay for housing or pay for leveling or pay for current content, I stop being okay with it.

[SagaSoluna]

But the argument of myself and of many others in this thread is that all items should be obtainable via an in-game method due to the fact we pay a monthly subscription. I would be perfectly fine with these things being a limited-time only event, and THEN moving to the cash shop, but we don't even have that option.

For those who are OK with our current cash shop - is it just that you've never experienced any alternative? As mentioned earlier, my first MMO was XI and I didn't know what cash shops were until I branched out to F2P games (yeaaaars down the road). I suppose if this is your first MMO, or you've only played newer games, you would know no better. This obviously won't be the case for everyone. Just a shower thought.

You sound like them Tumblr Feminists
"If you don´t agree with me you don´t know any better"

Pathetic and saddening, literally.

[Skivvy]

You sound like them Tumblr Feminists
"If you don´t agree with me you don´t know any better"

Pathetic and saddening, literally.

LOL, way to come out of left-field with that comment. Did I strike a nerve or something? I've not been attacking anyone in this thread. Simply explaining/defending my viewpoint.

For me, that's not it. I came over from WoW which had a cash shop, but also had a very active anti-cash shop population. Quick caveat with WoW. I left during Mists right before the introduction of the pay for level option.

I have a different viewpoint of what I expect in my subscription. My viewpoint isn't right or wrong, but it is mine. As long as the vast majority of mounts, minions, vanity items, and clothing are available in game and the cash shop isn't being used to gate content or levels, I'm okay with it.

The moment that the company starts shifting large efforts into pay-for materials or does pay for housing or pay for leveling or pay for current content, I stop being okay with it.

And fair enough Again, I get we all have our opinions on the matter, no one is right or wrong. Just trying to understand the other side a bit more.

[Chalbee]

Trading the future of the game for a vanity item to brag about. Because they belive, the money the spend on the vanity item is somehow invested back into the game.

THE CASH SHOP POISONED OUR WATER SUPPLY, BURNED OUR CROPS, AND DELIVERED A PLAGUE UNTO OUR HOUSES!!!

[Alexander_Dragonfang]

Well, it exists, and will continue to exist, so the blaming of people who use it really needs to stop.

No, it has to be encouraged so people stops this problem. Only reason this cash shop exist its cause it was asked for in the first place.

Not to mention, it reduces the value of the paid subscription, you are getting less, even if its just a mount, content for your monthly fee than before. Not to mention this will continue, and with each "success" this cash shop has, less are we getting into the game itself.

THE CASH SHOP POISONED OUR WATER SUPPLY, BURNED OUR CROPS, AND DELIVERED A PLAGUE UNTO OUR HOUSES!!!

No, is just ruining the game.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

And heres one of those doom and gloomers blaming people who buy stuff on the cash shop for the games inadequacies. Cash shop additions are few and far between. and they have added more mounts to the game per each single mount added to the cash shop lol.

But no, anyone who uses the cash shop is bad and should feel bad, wahh.

For the record, I havent purchased any of the cash shop mounts. I just dont think its as big of an issue as people make it out to be.

[Alexander_Dragonfang]

Its not a mount or several mounts for that matter.

Is the very existence of the cash shop itself. People paying whatever they belive a mount is worth isn`t an issue. That there is a mount outside the game you can pay for is the issue.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Its not a mount or several mounts for that matter.

Is the very existence of the cash shop itself. People paying whatever they belive a mount is worth isn`t an issue. That there is a mount outside the game you can pay for is the issue.

Well, it exists, and will continue to exist, so the blaming of people who use it really needs to stop.