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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    I don't think the act of spending $30 is the main complaint for most people. It's more that SE is double-dipping it's playerbase by charging a monthly sub, and then on top of that selling them additional items that are not obtainable in game.
    Also, $30 is pretty ridiculous for a mount. Spending $30 isn't going to break the bank for most people, but that doesn't change the fact that the pricing is absurd.
    Well I don't see people complaining about the cinema's double-dipping their customers, "Oh, it's $10 for the ticket, you want refreshments? That's another $10 please." "But I should have my refreshments included in the ticket cost at no additional cost!" Do you see what I mean?

    Quote Originally Posted by Celef View Post
    Exactly
    *although yes, 30$ is pretty expensive for pixels
    Well I could say the same about the fact that $60 is too expensive for console pixels but I don't because there is a certain requirement for money-to-work exchange, and from what SE has worked out, their work on the Fat Mog mount is worth $30 per person. What you could perceive as $15/$10 could very well actually be $40 by the person who made it, value is subjective to where it is being sold/by who/how much work was put into it. If you disagree with that price, then you aren't forced to purchase it and/or anything else that will or won't be included. Instead you could spend that cash to get another 30 days playtime, with that ugly Gobbie helm you don't like for playing for so long.

    If I showed you a painting that is literally a yellow circle, I could put it up for sale for $100 and it would eventually be purchased by someone, but to me, it took all of $5 to make. SE is a business primarily, so profits come first. You are a customer, and you are being offered multiple things, it's up to you whether you want those multiple things or not, at an extra cost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErryK View Post
    Well I don't see people complaining about the cinema's double-dipping their customers, "Oh, it's $10 for the ticket, you want refreshments? That's another $10 please." "But I should have my refreshments included in the ticket cost at no additional cost!" Do you see what I mean?

    The movie theater business is completely different from MMOs. Most of the money from a ticket sale goes directly to the actual movie studio and NOT the theater. Concessions are where they can actually make a killing.

    Quote Originally Posted by ErryK View Post
    Well I could say the same about the fact that $60 is too expensive for console pixels but I don't because there is a certain requirement for money-to-work exchange, and from what SE has worked out, their work on the Fat Mog mount is worth $30 per person. What you could perceive as $15/$10 could very well actually be $40 by the person who made it, value is subjective to where it is being sold/by who/how much work was put into it. If you disagree with that price, then you aren't forced to purchase it and/or anything else that will or won't be included. Instead you could spend that cash to get another 30 days playtime, with that ugly Gobbie helm you don't like for playing for so long.

    If I showed you a painting that is literally a yellow circle, I could put it up for sale for $100 and it would eventually be purchased by someone, but to me, it took all of $5 to make. SE is a business primarily, so profits come first. You are a customer, and you are being offered multiple things, it's up to you whether you want those multiple things or not, at an extra cost.
    And you are completely missing the point. Of course value is subjective. The point is, we pay a monthly subscription cost for this game, everything (fluff) should be included with this subscription. Instead, we get nickel and dimed for special items that are cash-shop only.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    The point is, we pay a monthly subscription cost for this game, everything (fluff) should be included with this subscription.
    Based on what? Says who?
    Because as far as i remember, my sub only guarantees my access to the game and the preservation of my character/account data on the servers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    The movie theater business is completely different from MMOs. Most of the money from a ticket sale goes directly to the actual movie studio and NOT the theater. Concessions are where they can actually make a killing.
    Ok, here's a better analogy. It's like saying "I should have free refreshments from the minibar when I already pay $150 for a hotel room". Except they're not free, it's an EXTRA service which is 100% optional. You are saying it should not be there but the fact of the matter is, it's optional.

    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    And you are completely missing the point. Of course value is subjective. The point is, we pay a monthly subscription cost for this game, everything (fluff) should be included with this subscription. Instead, we get nickel and dimed for special items that are cash-shop only.
    That's only how you see it, and you are perfectly capable of deciding whether x or y is worth purchasing based of if the game is P2P or F2P. If a developer chooses to include a CS to a P2P game where they already charge $15 for a month's worth of playtime, then that's how they run their business and you are one person out of a potential 400,000-600,000 telling them how to run a business. Losing you as a customer, is them losing $15 a month, except they're already making double that amount by selling this Fat Mog mount. While you are free to tell them to not apply a CS or not, it is up to SE in the end, not the customer.

    TL;DR SE dictates whether cash shop stays or goes, and that is the justification of why the CS is there. SE will use it how they please, if you're unhappy, then there's not much you can do except voice your opinion.
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    My first reaction was, "OH! I wanna get that" and I readied the wallet and everything! But then I saw the price tag and was like, "GUUUURRRL, dayum."

    I'm down with the previous mount prices but I ain't paying $30 because two people can sit on anything. Like, check yourself SE.
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    I love it, I'm just not willing to spend that much at this time. Maybe later idk yet.
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    Obviously overpriced, plus, it actually looks horrid from the backside.

    That's our chance to tell SE to draw the line with the ever increasing prices of cash shop mounts or allow them to bring out a 45€ Faust Mount next month.
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    Sorry, but I think it's ugly looking. Not wasting $30 bucks on that mount.
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    Nice. Another thing that should be in the game that we sub for. Would make a lot more sense for the moogle dailies than a dandelion. I guess you'll only ever be able to get 2 seat mounts if you pay cash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blazer View Post
    . I guess you'll only ever be able to get 2 seat mounts if you pay cash.
    I think the mount you get for 2000 mentor roulettes is a 2 seat mount.
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