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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    You mean the retextured flying fat chocobo with bomb palanquin chains(also retextured)? or the (Allready ingame) Odin mount?

    Sure they really broke their backs on those...

    On the upside we know they aren't wasting too many resources on these things using existing assets and just morphing them into ungodly apperations looking at you PLD War"Lion" mount.
    Your hate is by comparison of what? There's only a few "unique" mounts in this game, and even then, the assets already exist (like the Gobwalker) or are reused over and over (like the primal mounts). When you compare it to what's available now, it's fairly up there in quality. I'm assuming the mogs on the side do something as well. Something tells me you're just needlessly spiteful.

    Quote Originally Posted by hagare View Post
    well.... WoW used to only have cosmetics before.
    Take a look at it now. Insta 90 whoooo
    There's actually an instant 100 now, in prep for Legion I guess. Not really a big deal though for that game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Welsper59 View Post
    I'm assuming the mogs on the side do something as well.
    The mount has a mount action like Twintania/Magitek, the moogles on the side do a little dance and fly around the bench. It's quite cute, honestly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Welsper59 View Post
    There's actually an instant 100 now, in prep for Legion I guess. Not really a big deal though for that game.
    see, as long as that mindset exists then the trend will continue.
    Soon enough FF14 will have the same deal and you'll throw out any reasoning to justify it.
    Might as well use this too when it finally happens: "Not really a big deal though for this game."
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    Quote Originally Posted by hagare View Post
    see, as long as that mindset exists then the trend will continue.
    Soon enough FF14 will have the same deal and you'll throw out any reasoning to justify it.
    Might as well use this too when it finally happens: "Not really a big deal though for this game."
    Just to emphasize why I said it's not a big deal. I recently subbed again. I went from 90-100 in 3 or 4 hours with upgraded heirlooms (which means around 5 or so hours without). Going from 1-90 takes about that same span of time as well. So uhmm... what part of that makes the instant 100 a big deal? With a game that you can just solo quest all the way to max level.

    As for this game, do you really think the leveling process is mandatory at this point? At least for people who already leveled to max on one job, that is. You don't really learn a whole lot while you level, and if you have the drive to learn, you'd do it anyway regardless of taking the slow approach or jumping ahead. Do we magically not have bad players now or something? Those guys were forced to group up too to get to the HW areas. While I don't really see a point to having the instant boost option here, I'm not so ignorant as to just automatically state it'll be the destruction of the game, which is exactly what it seems you're implying. Correct me if I'm wrong about that. We are talking about a game that lets you level up solo, aren't we? One that even in groups, lets you be carried too. Maybe if this game were very strict about its leveling process, the argument against an instant boost would have significant merit, but where we are now... it's just pointless defense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hagare View Post
    see, as long as that mindset exists then the trend will continue.
    Soon enough FF14 will have the same deal and you'll throw out any reasoning to justify it.
    Might as well use this too when it finally happens: "Not really a big deal though for this game."
    I don't think so. We already have so much in the game that provides an EXP boost (Rested EXP, buff food, FC Actions, as well as bonuses to first-timers), so why, even though we have all these avenues for EXP, does this apparent 'mindset' warrant an EXP pot?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErryK View Post
    I don't think so. We already have so much in the game that provides an EXP boost (Rested EXP, buff food, FC Actions, as well as bonuses to first-timers), so why, even though we have all these avenues for EXP, does this apparent 'mindset' warrant an EXP pot?
    does it warrant it? no
    will it be there? most likely yes.
    do you think WoW doesn't have exp boosts as well?
    does it have insta 100 now? yes
    see the trend?

    Quote Originally Posted by Welsper59 View Post
    Just to emphasize why I said it's not a big deal. I recently subbed again. I went from 90-100 in 3 or 4 hours with upgraded heirlooms (which means around 5 or so hours without). Going from 1-90 takes about that same span of time as well. So uhmm... what part of that makes the instant 100 a big deal? With a game that you can just solo quest all the way to max level.

    As for this game, do you really think the leveling process is mandatory at this point? At least for people who already leveled to max on one job, that is. You don't really learn a whole lot while you level, and if you have the drive to learn, you'd do it anyway regardless of taking the slow approach or jumping ahead. Do we magically not have bad players now or something? Those guys were forced to group up too to get to the HW areas. While I don't really see a point to having the instant boost option here, I'm not so ignorant as to just automatically state it'll be the destruction of the game, which is exactly what it seems you're implying. Correct me if I'm wrong about that. We are talking about a game that lets you level up solo, aren't we? One that even in groups, lets you be carried too. Maybe if this game were very strict about its leveling process, the argument against an instant boost would have significant merit, but where we are now... it's just pointless defense.
    is the in game advantage significant? probably not. Though getting to end game faster does give you more of an advantage.
    You're only seeing the leveling progress while ignoring what it causes for end game.
    How much of a difference 3-4 hours gives you. That's like an extra day or two of savage practice.
    Or are you gonna say that it doesn't matter because it doesn't impact the majority?

    I'm done. We obviously have our own way of thinking and will never agree on where the game should go.
    If the cons of the game outweighs the pros I'll just quit like I did WoW XD
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    Quote Originally Posted by hagare View Post
    is the in game advantage significant? probably not. Though getting to end game faster does give you more of an advantage.
    You're only seeing the leveling progress while ignoring what it causes for end game.
    How much of a difference 3-4 hours gives you. That's like an extra day or two of savage practice.
    Or are you gonna say that it doesn't matter because it doesn't impact the majority?

    I'm done. We obviously have our own way of thinking and will never agree on where the game should go.
    If the cons of the game outweighs the pros I'll just quit like I did WoW XD
    I literally addressed those concerns in that second paragraph. So... oh well to interpretation?

    Good for you on being willing to quit if you don't like the game as it is. That is literally what everyone should do if they're unhappy with something. I am 100% serious on that. If it does come to that, and you do go through with it, then much respect for you on it. It's a logical standard that most people fail to go through with. Assuming you see this anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hagare View Post
    does it warrant it? no
    will it be there? most likely yes.
    do you think WoW doesn't have exp boosts as well?
    does it have insta 100 now? yes
    see the trend?
    "One MMO did it, it means all of them will." Get over yourself. Also, I'd like to know the lottery numbers, since you can actively tell the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErryK View Post
    "One MMO did it, it means all of them will." Get over yourself. Also, I'd like to know the lottery numbers, since you can actively tell the future.
    though I said I was done, I'll make an exception and make one final post since you are being soooo hospitable.

    Here is one of the definition of trend:

    "trend
    trend/Submit
    noun
    1.
    a general direction in which something is developing or changing."

    WoW started with cosmetics first, at first it was mounts.
    FF14 is also currently doing this.
    Then further down the road they did insta levels.
    Will FF14 do the same? They might, they might not. But the trend says they more likely will do it some day.

    They're different games by different companies you say?
    Then let me give you an example of another thing that follows a similar trend.
    DLC.
    At first only a few companies and only certain games do DLCs.
    Now? DLCs left and right by different companies and in different types of games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hagare View Post
    snip
    Thank you for that definition, I too know how to use dictionary.com.

    And I will repeat, just because WoW did it, doesn't mean FFXIV will, so get over yourself.

    EDIT: I'm going to state why I have an issue with this. You don't have to buy it, the less sales happen, the less likely they'll do it. But don't bother those who choose to purchase it... that's just rude and childish.
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