Fat Moogle Mount on Mogstation!

[Lucke]

Seems to me, people who forked over the cash are feeling a bit of buyer's remorse. They come in here looking for any sort of validation that they didn't just get milked by SE.

[Zigabar]

Seems to me, people who forked over the cash are feeling a bit of buyer's remorse. They come in here looking for any sort of validation that they didn't just get milked by SE.

SE can milk me all day, I love my new mount. May want to re-read the thread, if that's your view.

[Remus]

SE can milk me all day...

This caught my attention... ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[Teryaani]

This caught my attention... ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Keep this kinda talk in the Quicksands where it belongs!

[Remus]

Keep this kinda talk in the Quicksands where it belongs!

Sadly I can't accept this request. I'm not on the Balmung Server. ¯\_ಠ ͟ʖಠ_/¯

[Teryaani]

Sadly I can't accept this request. I'm not on the Balmung Server.

Every server has its Goldshire. You just have to look...

and then quietly laugh to yourself.

[Zigabar]

This caught my attention... ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Keep this kinda talk in the Quicksands where it belongs!

Too bad we're not on Balmung ;o

Every server has its Goldshire. You just have to look...

and then quietly laugh to yourself.

And then run for the hills!

Edit :: I've reached my daily!! So my last post today will be below. I hope Skivvy sees this! (I really wanted to answer it :< )

For those who are OK with our current cash shop - is it just that you've never experienced any alternative? As mentioned earlier, my first MMO was XI and I didn't know what cash shops were until I branched out to F2P games (yeaaaars down the road). I suppose if this is your first MMO, or you've only played newer games, you would know no better. This obviously won't be the case for everyone. Just a shower thought.

I've played all types of MMO's. P2P, B2P, F2P, P2W, Private Servers, with and without cash shops, etc. With FFXIV I have no problem with Mogstation as long as it stays vanity/non Pay to Win. Time's change and I've accepted that. I have a line I hope SE does not cross, and from what we've seen, they're still pretty far away from it.

[Skivvy]

Edit :: I've reached my daily!! So my last post today will be below. I hope Skivvy sees this! (I really wanted to answer it :< )

I've played all types of MMO's. P2P, B2P, F2P, P2W, Private Servers, with and without cash shops, etc. With FFXIV I have no problem with Mogstation as long as it stays vanity/non Pay to Win. Time's change and I've accepted that. I have a line I hope SE does not cross, and from what we've seen, they're still pretty far away from it.

Playing some catch up here, sorry for not acknowledging earlier. D:

One thing that makes me almost OK with the cash shop is the fact that SE as a company had not been doing well financially in recent years. XIV ARR has been great for them, but just because you finally get one financial success does not mean that the company as a whole is completely in the clear (although last I read they're doing OK now). A business has to make money, I totally get that and am 100% OK with it.

As I've mentioned a couple of times, my first MMO experience was XI which did not have a cash shop, and I guess that's just how I expected things to be. Not related to XIV, I also loathe DLC in other games as well. I've been a huge Sims fan and have played it since the very beginning with their first release. Now all the later versions have a massive cash shop to buy extra content, and I hate it! It feels like they purposefully withheld content so that they could make you buy it back at a later date. Slightly different as Sims is not a sub game, and they've always sold "items packs", so I hope no one claims this to be some solid argument. :P I know how these forums work!

As someone mentioned a bit earlier, SE is actually toying with the idea of a leveling potion. At what point do they draw the line? We all have our threshold for what we feel is acceptable, and maybe some of the pro-cash shop people will switch sides at that point. Hopefully it won't cross that line at all, but we'll see. XIV is designed to be casual, and those types of items do fit in with that model.
http://gamerescape.com/2016/06/17/e3...naoki-yoshida/

[Teryaani]

Seems to me, people who forked over the cash are feeling a bit of buyer's remorse. They come in here looking for any sort of validation that they didn't just get milked by SE.

That's not what I'm reading. I'm seeing four groups of people.

1) People who don't like the cash shop and are saying so (more)
2) People who don't like the cash shop and are ridiculing other people (fewer)
3) People who use the cash shop and seem a-okay with it (includes me for what it's worth - I'm looking forward to breaking this bad boy out when I get home). (more)
4) People who use the cash shop and seem gloaty about it (fewer)

Par for the course for these threads really.

[Skivvy]

That's not what I'm reading. I'm seeing four groups of people.

1) People who don't like the cash shop and are saying so (more)
2) People who don't like the cash shop and are ridiculing other people (fewer)
3) People who use the cash shop and seem a-okay with it (includes me for what it's worth - I'm looking forward to breaking this bad boy out when I get home). (more)
4) People who use the cash shop and seem gloaty about it (fewer)

Par for the course for these threads really.

This is a fairly good summary I think. Obviously opinions vary on the matter, but I'd love if we could drop out groups 2 and 4 as neither side is helping the discussion.