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    Aranie Crowley
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    Quote Originally Posted by SagaSoluna View Post
    I love how nowadays you are not allowed to have an opinion without being called a "korean F2P mmo fat wallet whale" or some other derogatory term
    Well first of all your are right, no one should call name on anyone, thats rude, even if we disagree with you !

    Quote Originally Posted by SagaSoluna View Post
    clearly meant to insinuate that you are what´s wrong with modern MMOverse.
    Certainly not THE thing that is wrong with modern MMOverse but at least a part of the problem. If game company developp items for a CS but no one buy from it, they will probably stop wasting time and money on this cause no benefits.
    On the other hand, if you keep buying, they keep selling and keep thinking they should allow dev time to that instead of thing everyone can enjoy.
    How much time did they use to make that mount that benefits only a few of us and how did it impact the creation of other stuffs that we could all enjoy for the price of our sub ?
    And, more important, why not add it to the game as well ?
    I mean, if someone does not want to wast time on, lets say King Moogle trials, he / she can buy the mount in Cs.
    If someone does not want to buy it in CS, they should be abble to get it via the Trial.
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    Last edited by Celef; 07-26-2016 at 11:17 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celef View Post
    How much time did they use to make that mount/ how did it impact the creation of other stuff
    A game studio has different teams assigned to different tasks.

    The devs/progs that create Optional items may not even be the same people that work on game content and regular updates

    You are assuming that creating optional content means less time or manpower creating the rest of content, but they may not even be related to each other and the optional item devs may not even be hired if there was no profit to be made.

    Quote Originally Posted by Celef View Post
    why not add it to the game as well ?
    Because then, a number of people who have purchased the item may have chosen to get it ingame instead, thus resulting in a loss of profits for the devs.

    Not only that, but the effort and time required to obtain the item would have to be difficult and lenghty to justify it being free vs25$ , which would probably stll leave a segment of players without it.
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    Citation Envoyé par Alberel Voir le message
    Actually the subscription is meant to go towards funding the development of future content.

    Quote Originally Posted by SagaSoluna View Post
    The sub is meant to be their profit, how they spend it its their business.
    Citation Envoyé par Alberel Voir le message
    The devs that make things for the cash shop are the same ones that make stuff for regular content patches.
    Quote Originally Posted by SagaSoluna View Post
    Prove it, since i assume such a claim means that you personally know the FFXIV team and how they organize and share the workload.
    Citation Envoyé par Alberel Voir le message
    Cash shops in subscription MMOs are not 'optional extras' they're cut content that you can choose to buy back.
    Quote Originally Posted by SagaSoluna View Post
    Prove it, i want you to show me all those blueprints, concept art and dev-chats that you have about the flying fat moogle and how it was pre-release planned content that got cut.
    I mean, with all those claims, i assume you can prove them to be true.

    Fine, proove it too please; You ask Alberel proof regarding his assumption while you do excactly the same without prooving anything just because it goes the way you want so i want proof regarding this :
    Quote Originally Posted by SagaSoluna View Post
    A game studio has different teams assigned to different tasks.

    The devs/progs that create Optional items may not even be the same people that work on game content and regular updates

    You are assuming that creating optional content means less time or manpower creating the rest of content, but they may not even be related to each other and the optional item devs may not even be hired if there was no profit to be made.
    Tchatlog with dev team, mails etc every usual thing people always ask for so i might stop thinking SE uses my sub money to create items i can't get because i won't pay extra money for it in CS instead of creating content for every players.
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    Last edited by Celef; 07-27-2016 at 01:33 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Watachy View Post
    C'était en fait SE qui survolait Ishgard sur une liasse de billets

    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    People don't know how to take criticism anymore, and bad play is rewarded with with a coddling mentality. Yes, this is a casual game for the most part - that doesn't mean people need to walk on eggshells in fear of getting reported for pointing out things. This whole 'please don't say anything even slightly negative' mentality that we seem to be going towards and the devs seemingly pushing towards it is creating a disturbing trend.