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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celef View Post
    If we don't want items to be put in mog station we need to stop buying from it, they will either stop putting "exclusive" things (a loss i know but still better than that) or put it IG via grind to make money because as long as you grind, you pay a sub but, in the end, you get a chance to get your item

    Of course we don't HAVE to buy it but if we like it, we have no choice but to buy it. You can eat for 3 or 4 days with 21€, why only the rich ones could get that moubnt when we all, poor included, pay the same sub ?
    Replying to bolded parts. Why should the rich have an option to buy exclusive cosmetic items? You said it yourself: because there's a chance that these items would not have been made at all if they weren't going to charge money for them. They probably have a separate budget to work with. If the items are not funded with our sub $£€ (my guess is that mog station items are funded by mog station profits) then obviously we are not entitled to the items without paying more than our sub cost.

    It would be much worse to never have these cool mounts as an option at all. Same with the promotional and region exclusive items. I would love for everything to be available to everyone but if that's not going to happen I'll take the second best option and watch other people enjoy their items. Wanting to deny everyone a chance at some cosmetic items just because you can't have it smells like jealousy. You can still play the game and ride other mounts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Celef View Post
    I know but we should not have to BUY these in a sub game. Let them add these in CS, if we, all together, stop buyint these, they might stop adding them.
    I'm not against CS, i'm just against CS in a 13€ monthly game. At least make it F2P and do like some others MMO where, when you have a sub, you get CS money every month for supporting the game (like TSW - EQ2 - Rift etc).
    To me the sub doesn't mean that I get all the creative works ever made for that game without additional fees. It means I get the game, have an equal footing to play it than everyone else and there are no pay to win mechanics. WoW finally implemented pay to win in it's latest expansion but it in all fairness it also went free to play (technically).

    I don't think you'll have much success talking people into not buying these items, because most people realize it's just cosmetic luxury stuff that they're funding by paying that extra cost. The retainer service is much much more concerning IMO. Now that's almost pay to win. Never seen a game company so shamelessly abusing the most basic commodity of an RPG, the inventory space.

    Quote Originally Posted by Melorie View Post
    I though a P2P community would have way more critical sense about these subjects and instead I'm just meeting the same old whales from f2p korean mmos.
    I've never played a Korean F2P MMO but I'll gladly be compared to a whale. They are amazing, intelligent creatures.
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    Last edited by Reinha; 07-26-2016 at 08:15 PM.
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