Fat Moogle Mount on Mogstation!

[Jetstream_Fox]

30 dollars huh? That cost more then all the failed content 3.0 has ushered in combined. Glad I only play this on Tuesdays now.

[Chiramu]

Beautiful thing about having a good paying for job I work hard at. I can buy things like this and not feel guilty. Lol.

So apparently everyone complaining is on welfare for you? Money means nothing for cash shop mounts...

[Ryaz]

So apparently everyone complaining is on welfare for you? Money means nothing for cash shop mounts...

I didn't say anything about people complaining. Just that I don't feel guilty dropping money on a cosmetic item. Not sure where you got that from...

[Melorie]

I though a P2P community would have way more critical sense about these subjects and instead I'm just meeting the same old whales from f2p korean mmos.

[Celef]

I though a P2P community would have way more critical sense about these subjects and instead I'm just meeting the same old whales from f2p korean mmos.

Most of MMO are F2P nowadays so I guess players are used to that kind of attitude from gaming company that NEED CS to keep developping the game and SE shamelessly uses this habit to make even more money on us :/
As long as people will see this as normal, that won't stop and considering the large amond of F2P games nowadays the mentality will probably never go back to "i bought the game, I pay a sub, why should i pay more for things that are developped using my sub money ?"

[Melorie]

Most of MMO are F2P nowadays so I guess players are used to that kind of attitude from gaming company that NEED CS to keep developping the game and SE shamelessly uses this habit to make even more money on us :/
As long as people will see this as normal, that won't stop and considering the large amond of F2P games nowadays the mentality will probably never go back to "i bought the game, I pay a sub, why should i pay more for things that are developped using my sub money ?"

Exactly. To be honest this mindset is the root of the state of p2w games today. These people are no better than whales from f2p games.
When I saw the data for the mount I though "something well done like this wouldn't be on the mogstation". I even tried to make quests faster so I could achieve 60 and decided to level up my crafters a bit in case I needed them to get the mount. Now here I am, A sea of salt.

[LunaFaye]

When I saw the data for the mount I though "something well done like this wouldn't be on the mogstation". I even tried to make quests faster so I could achieve 60 and decided to level up my crafters a bit in case I needed them to get the mount. Now here I am, A sea of salt.

Not defending SE here, but we all knew it wouldn't be a reward from the beast tribes, since every tribe has 1 mount at max rank and the moggles got already that ugly dandelion mount. We also knew there weren't any beast tribes being added since it's clearly stated to be a hotfix patch, and even if they added another tribe, there would have been any explanation or reason for that mount. Sorry to say, but that's your own fault for speeding/rushing through content and then complain at the end.

[Melorie]

Not defending SE here, but we all knew it wouldn't be a reward from the beast tribes, since every tribe has 1 mount at max rank and the moggles got already that ugly dandelion mount. We also knew there weren't any beast tribes being added since it's clearly stated to be a hotfix patch, and even if they added another tribe, there would have been any explanation or reason for that mount. Sorry to say, but that's your own fault for speeding/rushing through content and then complain at the end.

I didn't though that it would be a reward from beast tribes either. But yes, I though that it would be a reward for something. And I'm not crying that I decided to "rush" any kind of content (I did read all my quests, like I'm used to, and do not mind leveling my crafters), I just wanted to point out this to show that I was excited with the mount and god forbid feeling excited with anything in this game. My disappointment has nothing to do with rushing content and that's not my point.

Because there's a chance that these items would not have been made at all if they weren't going to charge money for them. They probably have a separate budget to work with. If the items are not funded with our sub $£€ (my guess is that mog station items are funded by mog station profits) then obviously we are not entitled to the items without paying more than our sub cost.

There's no way to confirm that though.

I've never played a Korean F2P MMO but I'll gladly be compared to a whale. They are amazing, intelligent creatures.

You do realize that's it's just a term and it has nothing to do with the animal, I hope.

[Skivvy]

I though a P2P community would have way more critical sense about these subjects and instead I'm just meeting the same old whales from f2p korean mmos.

In past threads, it's quite shocking to me how many people are 100% OK with items being exclusive to the cash shop. The thread does actually seem to have far more unhappy voices than usual, so that's nice to see.

IMO, everything should be obtainable IN-GAME at some point before going to the cash shop. I know, crazy idea, but since we do pay a monthly sub I figured that would be fair.

As far as the cash shop is concerned, fantasias, world transfers, name changes and basic account services are all dandy. Since there is no way the cash shop is going away, I would also be OK with them selling out-of-season seasonal gear (in case you missed the original run).

This direct-to-cash shop on a P2P game is wrong. :/

[Melorie]

In past threads, it's quite shocking to me how many people are 100% OK with items being exclusive to the cash shop. The thread does actually seem to have far more unhappy voices than usual, so that's nice to see.

IMO, everything should be obtainable IN-GAME at some point before going to the cash shop. I know, crazy idea, but since we do pay a monthly sub I figured that would be fair.

As far as the cash shop is concerned, fantasias, world transfers, name changes and basic account services are all dandy. Since there is no way the cash shop is going away, I would also be OK with them selling out-of-season seasonal gear (in case you missed the original run).

This direct-to-cash shop on a P2P game is wrong. :/

Pretty much my point. Don't care about recolours, tbh I don't even feel that bad about in-game npc costumes but this is just wrong. Period.

I love how nowadays you are not allowed to have an opinion without being called a "korean F2P mmo fat wallet whale" or some other derogatory term clearly meant to insinuate that you are what´s wrong with modern MMOverse.

It's not only a matter of opinion, tho. We're talking about how the game deals with items and I don't have any sympaty for people with that mindset nor I should have. You may have your opinion as much as you want, doesn't change the fact that I think that it's terrible and will voice that. Opinions aren't perfect little things inside bubbles that cannot be criticized.
If you're offended with the term, then I sorry (not being sarcastic here, I truly am), let me be less rude: by "mmo korean whales" I meant people that keeps paying/supporting/agreeing with exclusive cash shop stuff and makes this kind of unfair business live and grow and gets worse.