We're getting stat allocation back in 1.20, right?

[Coglin]

It is highly unlikely that this system will provide the freedom you describe.

Really? It works in every other MMO. Point is, there is no such thing as one correct build. You desire us all to be pigeon holed into one build? Really?

SO many of you think that materia really lets you have statistical diversity?

I am fine with those of you that want to be statistical clones of one another, thats your business. What I don't understand, is why everyone is so concerned that me and others with my view ned to be convinced that we would not actually have any build freedom ?

Now I can respect your opinion untill you said

"For instance, you're not supposed to ever emphasize survivability unless you're in a tanking position"

Unless you mail me $50 to cover the original purchase price of my game, and set up so that you pay my monthly fee once they start charging, then you can go shove it if you think your gonna tell me how I am supposed to play.

[Stufoo]

Unless you mail me $50 to cover the original purchase price of my game, and set up so that you pay my monthly fee once they start charging, then you can go shove it if you think your gonna tell me how I am supposed to play.

Look everyone, he's one of those guys. What a special little flower you are.

[AmyRae]

I think they can bring back point allocation, but it won't be the same as it was before.

Obviously, they are going to work within the framework with the auto-allocation of points that currently exists, so you won't be responsible for applying all the points you were able to before. Since physical levels are gone, it's probable you'll allocate points by class (as per its rank) rather than rely on a giant pool of them that you have to stick with across all classes.

Even if you can stick 40 points into strength, as someone gave as an example, it definitely won't negate the importance gear that gives you an extra 8. Every point counts to a min-maxer and the very best gear will always be the most valuable.

"Spec'ing" has a long, glorious tradition in RPGs and MMOs, so point allocation is not out-of-place or unwelcome in FFXIV. The potential for a variety of strategies built with the same class can only be achieved with flexibility like this.

[Mahayana]

blah blah blah...
...If everyone HAS to use a certain setup then just make it uniform for the class....
blah blah blah

The problem is that SE doesnt know whats good for MY job... I know whats good for my job. Example is that conj has almost 3k hp but a little over 1k mp..... that's retarded SE. I want to at least allot some of my points.

[Frein]

Really? It works in every other MMO. Point is, there is no such thing as one correct build. You desire us all to be pigeon holed into one build? Really?

No, it never worked in any MMO. There is always 1-3, usually just one, optimal builds for every class. Doing anything else is doing it wrong.

Unless you mail me $50 to cover the original purchase price of my game, and set up so that you pay my monthly fee once they start charging, then you can go shove it if you think your gonna tell me how I am supposed to play.

Nobody can tell you how to play the game, however, they can tell you to spec their way or GTFO of their group/LS/etc.

[Koroma_tanuki]

I tottally agree with Coglin Play how you want should force to to play a job a certain way. I for one only play MMO's to solo ^^


(and yes my butt is very sore from the last patch)

[Dreadnought]

Really? It works in every other MMO. Point is, there is no such thing as one correct build. You desire us all to be pigeon holed into one build? Really?

SO many of you think that materia really lets you have statistical diversity?

I am fine with those of you that want to be statistical clones of one another, thats your business. What I don't understand, is why everyone is so concerned that me and others with my view ned to be convinced that we would not actually have any build freedom ?

Now I can respect your opinion untill you said

"For instance, you're not supposed to ever emphasize survivability unless you're in a tanking position"

Unless you mail me $50 to cover the original purchase price of my game, and set up so that you pay my monthly fee once they start charging, then you can go shove it if you think your gonna tell me how I am supposed to play.

this. a thousand times this.


It was already stated quite some time ago more than once that once they bring allocation back your points will automatically be assigned for you.
YOU THEN have the option go in and REDISTRIBUTE the points however you please.
So there you have it. it will be automatic but with the option to change it up if you like.

I personally feel that i should be able to put a few extra points into STR and less in DEF because thats how i play. Why limit me?

[Dreadnought]

No, it never worked in any MMO. There is always 1-3, usually just one, optimal builds for every class. Doing anything else is doing it wrong.


Nobody can tell you how to play the game, however, they can tell you to spec their way or GTFO of their group/LS/etc.

BUT THATS OK THOUGH!!
i enjoy a good solo/duo/trio with friends as much as i enjoy a good endgame party.

with the option to change your stats you can go back to your pidgeon holed stat build for endgame grinding and again back to your solo pleasure stat build.

why is that a bad thing?
The entire concept is to build your stats according to your about to do.
and take the half hour consequence for instance. do you know how many hours i had to wait for anything to happen in FFXI? waiting a half hour for me to go back to uber tank mode so i tank something for friends is a small price for them to pay.

[KiniRyris]

Short and quick. No they shouldn't bring it back exactly how it was. Im ok with a system where you are granted, say, 10 points per level, 9 are spent automatically and one you can choose where to spend it. Meaning by the time you hit level 50 you would be given 50 points to spend.

If they use that system, they should still enforce a cap, so you can't spend 50 points in STR alone

[HoolieWho]

I will be on board with flexibility in stat allocation when there is as much a penalty for low stats as there is a benefit for high stats.