We're getting stat allocation back in 1.20, right?

[viion]

if you bring it backyou are just going to mess up balance and i dont think the devs want to deal with the possibility that some tank might have 150vit and another have 250vit.

A whm would ignore int all together and go full mnd with tiny bit of pie, sounds good but it becomes over powered.

I think a little freedom such as the skills we get from guilds or merit type system be ok, but being able to pound in 50-100 points into 1 stat is dumb, makes gear pointless.

[Ferth]

Frankly I'm glad I don't have to worry about where to put what stats right now.. and if I want to alter my stats a bit I can do it through traits and through gear/materia.

If it stays this way I'd be happy.

[Dalmore]

I say the system works fine how it is currently and doesnt need to be changed. I mean why go back to a system even remotely like it was? its gonna hurt all classes for example on my pgl. i would have either all points str,dex or all points strmdex some vit to not be a glass cannon. but then my mp is low for abilities and my mnd is low for 2nd wind. or i put points in mnd,pie and gimp my dmg. ><
KEEP IT AUTO ALLOCATE PLEASE SE.

[Arcell]

I say the system works fine how it is currently and doesnt need to be changed. I mean why go back to a system even remotely like it was? its gonna hurt all classes for example on my pgl. i would have either all points str,dex or all points strmdex some vit to not be a glass cannon. but then my mp is low for abilities and my mnd is low for 2nd wind. or i put points in mnd,pie and gimp my dmg. ><
KEEP IT AUTO ALLOCATE PLEASE SE.

Auto-allocation does not negate this issue. The only difference between manual and automatic point allocation is that with manual you actually have to think for yourself, at least until someone posts up the optimal cookie-cutter build for your role. In my opinion the only advantage automatic allocation has is that it's easier for the devs to balance.

If I recall correctly though, we're really getting the best of both worlds with 1.20. Automatic allocation will still exist but we'll get bonus points on top of that.

[Dalmore]

Auto-allocation does not negate this issue. The only difference between manual and automatic point allocation is that with manual you actually have to think for yourself, at least until someone posts up the optimal cookie-cutter build for your role. In my opinion the only advantage automatic allocation has is that it's easier for the devs to balance.

If I recall correctly though, we're really getting the best of both worlds with 1.20. Automatic allocation will still exist but we'll get bonus points on top of that.

True but im saying is it'll mess up the balance.. ok pgl for example uses mp for LS and pum, and pre 1.19 we would run out of mp quick. pgl is DD yea? well we will focus str,dex and kinda vit for "our stats" well now we have no mp, no mnd for 2nd wind.
no mp for cures, no mp for in combat raise.
Or we can put points into pie and mnd so we can heal,use abilities without going oom, and be gimped on our dmg output. I mean seriosuly does pgl need anymore reason to not get invites for a party? (off topic qq)

[Arcell]

True but im saying is it'll mess up the balance.. ok pgl for example uses mp for LS and pum, and pre 1.19 we would run out of mp quick. pgl is DD yea? well we will focus str,dex and kinda vit for "our stats" well now we have no mp, no mnd for 2nd wind.
no mp for cures, no mp for in combat raise.
Or we can put points into pie and mnd so we can heal,use abilities without going oom, and be gimped on our dmg output. I mean seriosuly does pgl need anymore reason to not get invites for a party? (off topic qq)

That particular issue is deeper than just point allocation though. It stems from Pugilist needing way more MP than any other War class and not having a reliable means of regenerating it. If Second Wind just did HP+MP generation, there wouldn't be as much of a problem. Why it comes from Featherfoot is beyond me, and you have to evade to get the MP if I'm not mistaken.

With the new allocation system you get bonus points. Generally this means that you're not losing anything by placing these where you need them. Need MP? Allocate a point or two accordingly. Want to do a little more damage? Put some points into Strength. The skeleton of the build is there in the automatic allocation we have now. Bonus allocation allows you to flesh that out a bit depending on your play style.

[Dalmore]

With the stats the way they are 1 pie = 1 mp, we would need to add alot of points to pie for a small amount of mp that will be gone with one skill.
I really feel till they fix the stats themselves all stats should be auto allocated, because the way they are now any class that uses mp or mnd non caster wise will be gimping themselves.

and yes feather foot does mp regeneration but as soon as u evade an attack it goes away and fighting 50+ mobs thats usally 1 attack. with barely any if any at all mp regen.

[ChiefCurrahee]

I don't think for balance reasons they will let us allocate 100% freely.

For instance leveling Mar 1-50 we won't be given the option to pool all stats into STR, and forego PIE.

Why? That leads to imbalance.

I think we'll see like some others are speculating where upon level up all stats are increased automatic, save a few points which we can choose freely. But levels will have to have stat hard caps in order to keep balance.

Anyways Materia pretty much allows you to stat the way you want.

[Rubicon]

I hope the base stats are auto allocated and can't be changed but each level up give a point or two to add to whatever stat you want. You can still reroll stats but only using the gained points received each level. A 50 CNJ has 50 pts to allocate where she wants but she won't be able to take any stat below 50 CNJ preset stats.

[FilthyDisco]

Honestly, I could do without point allocation. Automatic is just fine for me