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    It was a pretty broken system, like almost everything related to XIV on launch because they weren't fully realized or optimized systems.

    Maplestory/sea does auto allocation on a class by class basis properly, so they can do it properly in XIV too if they so wished, but it seems a lot of people are touchy about 'freedom' wish is what got XIV in a bad place balance wise to begin with, because SE wanted to give players a bit too much freedom that it couldn't be balanced.

    I believe when they stated we'll get it back it will still have class specific level up stats and a bit of extra points on level up, kind of like how in XI throughout your pre 75 career you get auto stats on level up then post 75 you get points to specifically spend on certain attributes.
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    Do you really think they'd come up with this new system just to use it for A SINGLE PATCH?
    They didn't come up with a "new system". They temporarily removed the allocation feature because it wasn't ready to be used in this new environment. We aren't going back to pre-1.19 just because it comes back.

    It's mind-blowing how many people fail to understand how this system functions.

    /sigh /sigh /sigh

    Do you really think thats what I meant ?
    Who the hell knows really. You are making little sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennestia View Post
    I believe when they stated we'll get it back it will still have class specific level up stats and a bit of extra points on level up, kind of like how in XI throughout your pre 75 career you get auto stats on level up then post 75 you get points to specifically spend on certain attributes.

    I'm just curious what makes you believe that other than your own personal wish for it to be that way? Did Yoshi ever say this? As far as I know, they said one thing. That stat allocation would be coming back but it would be class specific.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    Who the hell knows really. You are making little sense.
    Or is it you're not intelligent enough to understand .. /pouts
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    Or is it you're not intelligent enough to understand .. /pouts
    Well excuse me for assuming that by "auto allocation" you meant the game automatically allocating the stats for you, as it currently does. Instead of God knows what you really meant.

    It would be nice to know what you're thinking, but as I am just a mere human you need to be able to communicate your thoughts properly for us to understand them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Misteyes View Post
    I haven't seen any mention of it since it was removed, but I remember reading (link) that Stat Allocation was coming back on a per-class basis in 1.20.

    Is that still the case? The total lack of recent mention of this has me wondering.
    I remember seeing something to this effect as well. You are not losing it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    Well excuse me for assuming that by "auto allocation" you meant the game automatically allocating the stats for you, as it currently does. Instead of God knows what you really meant.
    I meant it auto allocates the stats based on the class you are.

    So optimal allocation .. basically what we current have at the moment.

    This way people who want it are happy, people who don't are happy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    I meant it auto allocates the stats based on the class you are.

    So optimal allocation .. basically what we current have at the moment.
    Yeah I get it now. The point is that the system is not going to be optimal for long.

    Auto-allocation = the game distributes the stats however it wishes. This is what we have now.

    Manual allocation (back in 1.20) = we are given stat points to distribute however we like for each class separately. This will be the optimal way.

    The current system is only optimal because we can't affect our stats directly. That will change in 1.20.
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    Last edited by Betelgeuzah; 11-06-2011 at 12:07 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    The current system is only optimal because we can't affect our stats directly. That will change in 1.20.
    Perhaps, which goes back to what I originally said about not needing it because we have materia.

    Hopefully its only a handful of points so that its basically like having an extra materia equipped.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    Perhaps, which goes back to what I originally said about not needing it because we have materia.
    We don't "need" any customization options. That's kind of a silly argument.
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