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    Well they are back, and regular players using bots to farm the Yo-Kai event to top things off.
    Meanwhile in other games: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/overw...ic/20747914935

    Also I can confirm with my Anti-Virus and checking a cheat site that the anti cheat mechanisms on this game is purely server side checks which is unlike industry norms and pretty lax.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaFi0s0 View Post
    Well they are back, and regular players using bots to farm the Yo-Kai event to top things off.
    Meanwhile in other games: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/overw...ic/20747914935

    Also I can confirm with my Anti-Virus and checking a cheat site that the anti cheat mechanisms on this game is purely server side checks which is unlike industry norms and pretty lax.
    Meanwhile Black Desert Online is suing a bot maker. Bot maker takes all his bots offline.

    http://www.mmogames.com/gamenews/bla...nst-bot-maker/
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    Quote Originally Posted by LalafellDown View Post
    Meanwhile Black Desert Online is suing a bot maker. Bot maker takes all his bots offline.

    http://www.mmogames.com/gamenews/bla...nst-bot-maker/
    It would have been easier to hire some programmers to write code to detect and disable the bot before it got out of hand, than hire lawyers for this.

    I have a feeling they are trying to get damages for having a mediocre game and passing it off as it being caused by the bot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaFi0s0 View Post
    Well they are back, and regular players using bots to farm the Yo-Kai event to top things off.
    Meanwhile in other games: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/overw...ic/20747914935

    Also I can confirm with my Anti-Virus and checking a cheat site that the anti cheat mechanisms on this game is purely server side checks which is unlike industry norms and pretty lax.
    SE does that exact same thing with their own ban waves. Nevertheless, detecting cheats like what those people were using is far easier than eliminating bots. One is a group of actual players. The other is, well, bots who can easily be replaced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    SE does that exact same thing with their own ban waves. Nevertheless, detecting cheats like what those people were using is far easier than eliminating bots. One is a group of actual players. The other is, well, bots who can easily be replaced.
    Im not sure if I agree, SE just isnt aggresive enough, I played WoW for 3 years and only came across bots twice, one was a person in my guild and another was a random.
    WoW also uses Warden just like Overwatch does.

    The detection for Warden also relies on virtual inputs and it makes things very hard for the coders as they have to do a lot more coding and bug testing.

    Having read a popular cheat forum the attitude towards FFXIV and WoW/Overwatch is a lot different, they fear Blizzard but feel very safe with FFXIV which confirmed my observation from my Anti-Virus about there being only server side checks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaFi0s0 View Post
    Im not sure if I agree, SE just isnt aggresive enough, I played WoW for 3 years and only came across bots twice, one was a person in my guild and another was a random.
    WoW also uses Warden just like Overwatch does.

    The detection for Warden also relies on virtual inputs and it makes things very hard for the coders as they have to do a lot more coding and bug testing.

    Having read a popular cheat forum the attitude towards FFXIV and WoW/Overwatch is a lot different, they fear Blizzard but feel very safe with FFXIV which confirmed my observation from my Anti-Virus about there being only server side checks.
    Have you played WoW recently? Bots were not nearly as ubiquitous back when WoW launched because MMOs were still a somewhat new genre. I know a GM personally and she's had to deal with virtually the same volume of complaints and accusations they do "nothing" about bots, hackers and etc. It also depends on your server. I, for instance, have only seen bots twice in a full year because Balmung is so notoriously hard to get into. This doesn't mean SE cannot do more to help mitigate the problem. A right click option is sorely needed.

    Cheaters and bots are two completely different things. Like I said, cheaters are actual players who generally lack the funds or IP spoofing methods to get around bans. Bots are scripts that allow one person to control multiple characters at once. If said character is banned, they simply make another. Entire companies devoted to getting into popular games and spamming links. A reddit user went into explicit detail how much of "business" this is in China. Unfortunately, they don't fear Blizzard anymore than Square because neither company has legal authority to do anything. That's why bot companies rarely crop up in North America. If they did, then Blizzard could and would sue them into bankruptcy.
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