Job Tweak Suggestions Healer Roles

[Rawrz]

Personally, I think the fairy is overpowered. It was my first thought when I initially started playing. It replaces the actual healer entirely in 4-man dungeons. No other character has that amount of autonomy, to any degree remotely close. I've also seen a SCH's fairy replace the 2nd healer in 8-mans. I'm not saying it needs to go away. But it definitely could stand for some nerfing

Maybe it replaces the healer's job because... The act of healing a 4 man dungeon is crazy easy, yet we still have healers spamming cure every gcd. Also, any tank can solo Calcabrina in antitower. That's pretty independent for level 60 content. If you're being autonomous on an sch, you're a bad sch, no better than a black mage that spams blizzard or a whm that spams cure. (Not saying you do this, but if a player did. )

You should be manually casting embrace, every 3 seconds, to get the max effect, that's while dpsing or healing yourself. If you are entirely relying on the fairy ai to heal, you aren't using her right.

Also, below 50, she has a 300 potency heal. Once you hit 60 it is only 200 potency (Whispering Dawn was also affected.) It was a nerf when hw came out, since sch gained better aoe healing. So she's already been nerfed 33% of her healing potency.

[Rennies]

Maybe it replaces the healer's job because... The act of healing a 4 man dungeon is crazy easy, yet we still have healers spamming cure every gcd. Also, any tank can solo Calcabrina in antitower. That's pretty independent for level 60 content. If you're being autonomous on an sch, you're a bad sch, no better than a black mage that spams blizzard or a whm that spams cure.

You should be manually casting embrace, every 3 seconds, to get the max effect, that's while dpsing or healing yourself. If you are entirely relying on the fairy ai to heal, you aren't using her right.

Wait, people actually manually cast embrace? That sounds like a massive pain to deal with when you already have 3-6 pet cooldowns + placement commands in addition to the quite large skillset of a Scholar.

[Rawrz]

Wait, people actually manually cast embrace? That sounds like a massive pain to deal with when you already have 3-6 pet cooldowns + placement commands in addition to the quite large skillset of a Scholar.

The ai won't heal unless someone is below 80%. It's best to precast and heal before 80%, since over heal isn't an issue with mp efficiency. The earlier you get her to start healing, the more healing she can keep up with. This also synergizes with the spell speed buff she can proc for you.

[Ragology]

Wait, people actually manually cast embrace? That sounds like a massive pain to deal with when you already have 3-6 pet cooldowns + placement commands in addition to the quite large skillset of a Scholar.

I play with a controller. Since my 3 dots and ruin are on my dpad, I mash the square button to trigger this macro

/pac embrace <tt>
/pac embrace <tt>
/pac embrace <t>
/micon embrace pet selene

Also since the fairy macro is in the same section as my most used heals, I can tap it between casting for more embraces.

[Rawrz]

/pac embrace <tt>
/pac embrace <tt>
/pac embrace <t>

This macro works for some, but depending on your frame rate or if Eos/selene are busy, she might only "hear" the last command to embrace <t>, which, if you're targeting an enemy, she will heal herself. She will also never heal <t> unless they aren't targeting anything. @_@

[Ragology]

She will also never heal <t> unless they aren't targeting anything. @_@

You know, this is what I've always thought but someone said that I'm a bad scholar if I don't have the "embrace <t>" line in there. I think I'm gonna go back to having the single "embrace tt" line for the macro since that's why I made it to begin with.

[Rawrz]

You know, this is what I've always thought but someone said that I'm a bad scholar if I don't have the "embrace <t>" line in there. I think I'm gonna go back to having the single "embrace tt" line for the macro since that's why I made it to begin with.

I like to repeat lines excessively, because this framerate problem, becomes somewhat of a blessing, since it will psuedo- queue the action, based on frame rate. So you might actually want to repeat the tt part of the macro, just so Lilly has more time to listen. :3

[Tsumes]

Maybe it replaces the healer's job because... The act of healing a 4 man dungeon is crazy easy, yet we still have healers spamming cure every gcd. Also, any tank can solo Calcabrina in antitower. That's pretty independent for level 60 content. If you're being autonomous on an sch, you're a bad sch, no better than a black mage that spams blizzard or a whm that spams cure. (Not saying you do this, but if a player did. )

Also, below 50, she has a 300 potency heal. Once you hit 60 it is only 200 potency (Whispering Dawn was also affected.) It was a nerf when hw came out, since sch gained better aoe healing. So she's already been nerfed 33% of her healing potency.

Regardless of the difficulty. If a built in mechanic is able to replace a human player. It might be an issue. By replace I mean be able to clear the dungeon, regardless of speed. It may be an easy mode tactic for post-60 players. But it's still a bit overboard.

[Rawrz]

Regardless of the difficulty. If a built in mechanic is able to replace a human player. It might be an issue. By replace I mean be able to clear the dungeon, regardless of speed. It may be an easy mode tactic for post-60 players. But it's still a bit overboard.

In any dungeon, a tank can solo survive AND KILL anything at any given point that would require a healer, all by themselves at their own pace. So that point isn't exactly valid, unless you're saying tanks are in themselves a broken "mechanic."

Guys, the fairy IS overpowered, there's no discussion. Even Yoshida acknowledged it by the start of Heavensward, and you can see they nerfed pretty heavily the fairy growth between levels 50-60 and plan on nerfing even more.

It was more or less a direct potency nerf to 66% of the original value. He said that the fairy would catch up as our ilevel increased, but obviously he just meant it would heal more (which means nothing, because everyone's vit would directly go up with it.)

If someone wants to play SCH and be bad at it, then they can go ahead and auto follow someone. If that doesn't get you kicked, then you have a really enabling party, who like slow gimped pulls. A casual dungeon run means nothing, when the content was designed for 20-60 ilevels below with a tank who is equally as out-geared as you are.

[Tsumes]

In any dungeon, a tank can solo survive AND KILL anything at any given point that would require a healer, all by themselves at their own pace. So that point isn't exactly valid, unless you're saying tanks are in themselves a broken "mechanic."

No, he wouldn't. Because he'd run out of time, long before he got to the last boss.