Anyone disappointed with the PotD weapon?

[Ziegsy]

I take it the PotD weapon is sort of a lazy mans relic, with further updates available as more floors come out?

Now, I love the system, I love the idea of aetherical weapons, but here is my issue.
When I saw them I thought my graphics cars was borked and wasn't displaying the textures. Turns out thats how they are meant to look.


Since constructive criticism demands suggestion of alternatives - what would you like to see?
Personally Id have liked the glowing light effects like we got on the relic but the actual weapon being invisible, rather than the texture being replaces with one colour?

Or even a ghost weapon, something see-through?

[Erudito]

I am surprised they actually gave us a weapon at all. Have you noticed how hard it is to get any weapon past item level 210? As for the design, its very basic but its made of pure magic. Perhaps there will be better weapons in the future of the Palace that will be more detailed. I like only a few of the weapons in terms of the base shape myself.

My only qualm with the weapon is the silver chest nonsense. Picture this: You are in floor 49 and you get a silver chest that does not blow up and the neither the weapon nor armor improve and they are below +25. Why is that even a thing? If you are lucky enough to get a non-exploding silver chest in floor 49, shouldn't that be a 100% chance of getting a +1?

And on the topic of weapons:
Lore weapon is 3 weeks of tomes + those 7 gears which (if they haven't lifted the cap) means 7 weeks. Easy, but wow that is a lot of time for 1 weapon.

Any other weapons besides that? Sure, try the relic and I hope you have crafting people and a lot of time on your hands. If you have the time but no crafting friends, I hope you have several million for the market. Those who don't have the time will get their relics way later in the future when they matter very little if at all so...

Any other weapons? Yep, extreme primal fights. Now, did you get the weapon during the first 2 1/2 weeks of the fight dropping? No? Good luck with that then. Heck, good luck getting a clear if you are not in a high pop server.

See what I mean? Palace of the Dead weapon might be a tad dull and with little aesthetic detail and RNG hell for those with bad luck, but it is a good alternative for a weapon. Besides, there is still much of the Palace to come, better looking weapons could be part of the deal.

Just my 2 cents

[Mysterysword]

I'm disappointed with the weapons, but not for aesthetic reasons. Has no one actually looked at the stats on those weapons yet? They're totally mixed up in inexplicable ways.

The BLM weapon has INT, VIT, determination, and crit, when I was hoping for more spell speed.

The SMN weapon has the exact same stats as the BLM weapon, with spell speed in place of crit. What does a SMN need spell speed for?!

All 3 healer weapons are identical in terms of stats, and completely lack PIE.

There is no skill speed for the MCH, NIN, and MNK weapons.

None of the weapons have ACC on them.

These weapons aren't a lazy or poor man's relic, these weapons are just trash. I don't even want to use any of them, and so the entire purpose of running PotD is completely defeated for me.

[Zojha]

There is no skill speed for the MCH, NIN, and MNK weapons.

Isn't that, uh...good? Last I checked Skill Speed had the lowest stat weight for these jobs.

[Copenhagen]

None of the weapons have ACC on them.

No weapon in heavensward has had accuracy on it.

[Ilan]

I'm disappointed with the weapons, but not for aesthetic reasons. Has no one actually looked at the stats on those weapons yet? They're totally mixed up in inexplicable ways.

The BLM weapon has INT, VIT, determination, and crit, when I was hoping for more spell speed.

The SMN weapon has the exact same stats as the BLM weapon, with spell speed in place of crit. What does a SMN need spell speed for?!

All 3 healer weapons are identical in terms of stats, and completely lack PIE.

There is no skill speed for the MCH, NIN, and MNK weapons.

None of the weapons have ACC on them.

These weapons aren't a lazy or poor man's relic, these weapons are just trash. I don't even want to use any of them, and so the entire purpose of running PotD is completely defeated for me.

The weapons for PLD, MNK, SCH, MCH and NIN are good weapons. You don't want SkS or PIE with that classes, check the statweights before you complain. As BLM, BRD, WHM, DRG and SMN you go Nidhogg EX and farm your weapons there. And if you are not completly lazy you just do the relic. Sorry but its so easy to get a real good weapon in this patch for almost 0 effort.

[Fevelle]

All 3 healer weapons are identical in terms of stats, and completely lack PIE.

I don't want PIE in my WHM weapons, but I could use some Spell Speed.

[Ashelia_Ferron]

Isn't that, uh...good? Last I checked Skill Speed had the lowest stat weight for these jobs.

That's correct. MCH/NIN/MNK want Crit/Det, which these weapons provide.

The PLD sword is also Crit/Det which is much better than the parry Lore weapon, and better than the Horde Blade.

The SCH book having Crit/Det is actually really good since SCH doesn't have MP issues anyway (so PIE unnecessary) and the only other Crit SCH book is Midan (and relic), both of which take way more time and effort to get

[Estellios]

Spell Speed increase DoT damage FYI

[Shurrikhan]

Spell Speed increase DoT damage FYI

But, not as much as the other offensive secondary stats. It's just no longer utterly irrelevant to DoT damage—it's merely the least effective bonus.

Its main advantage, as scaling increases, is in fitting more GCDs into your buff / debuff (including DoT) windows. The sad thing is that DoTs, unlike vulnerability debuffs, are already typically your strongest skills, so increasing the percentage of lesser potency-per-execute skills gives little advantage. As such, Speed will always favor jobs with significantly extendable buff/debuff windows (think fitting in an extra cycle within a Dragon Kick or Twin Snakes) and minimal AA damage, oGCD damage, and per-execute range in rotational skills. DoTs do not scale nearly as well unless they would otherwise be incapable of perfect uptime without breaking combos (and then, only to the point that perfects such), and oGCDs and AAs gain no damage from Speed.

It also reduces percent remaining GCD (after Huton, Greased Lightning, etc.) linearly, or without recalculating based on itself, such that by the time you reach around a 2.0 GCD, down from 2.5, the same 25 Speed can reduce the GCD (at .01 seconds) by .5%, up from .4%. In other words, though its effect per point is linear, its weight is exponential, even if most of that potential is out of reach (some 1600 Speed to reach 2.0).