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    I can't believe crap like this is still an issue when we are getting bombarded by RMT tells before we can even get loaded into the game...

    Complain about something that matters.
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  2. #72
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    Quote Originally Posted by JediFirefly View Post
    I can't believe crap like this is still an issue when we are getting bombarded by RMT tells before we can even get loaded into the game...

    Complain about something that matters.
    I get like 10 tells a day at most (If I'm idling in town) on Behemoth.

    I guess I'm wrong in thinking that a game marketed as a Final Fantasy game in the Final Fantasy universe, designed around Final Fantasy Fan Service... should y'know... like... stay about Final Fantasy Fan Service.

    I can't wait to play Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare with the free (optional) (but still able to be seen) Bratz issue BDU complete with Pokeball Grenade skins.

    I can't wait to play the next GTA online with its event that instead makes you go around doing the laundry and good deeds for the citizens of Liberty City.

    I am so excited to play the next Dark Souls game where I can run into a guy wearing a Gundam themed suit of armor.
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    Well honeslty, i don't care about the event being out of lore, the items are nice (most of them) the minions are cute and if SE gets money for it and use it FOR FF14 ONLY, great.
    If it troubles you that much, you can always see it as some kind of carnaval for eorzean children, minions being plushies and weapons being false one for them to play the hero. Nothing prevents you from creating your own lore at some point
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    C'était en fait SE qui survolait Ishgard sur une liasse de billets

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    People don't know how to take criticism anymore, and bad play is rewarded with with a coddling mentality. Yes, this is a casual game for the most part - that doesn't mean people need to walk on eggshells in fear of getting reported for pointing out things. This whole 'please don't say anything even slightly negative' mentality that we seem to be going towards and the devs seemingly pushing towards it is creating a disturbing trend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeluBehemoth View Post
    Would you be happy if you bought the latest Call of Duty game and it had a level where everyone played as Bratz dolls?
    Someone fighting a giant dragon in a bikini doesn't break your immersion already?
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  5. #75
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celef View Post
    Well honeslty, i don't care about the event being out of lore, the items are nice (most of them) the minions are cute and if SE gets money for it and use it FOR FF14 ONLY, great.
    If it troubles you taht much, you can always see it as some kind of carnaval for eorzean children, minions being plushies and weapons being fales one for them to play the hero
    The problem is that money doesn't funnel into FF14. Thats why we get such watered down content patches. Thats why relic weapons were delayed until almost a year after the Expansions release.

    Most of that money is going into the development of FF15 and mobile titles.
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  6. #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colino View Post
    Someone fighting a giant dragon in a bikini doesn't break your immersion already?
    No it doesn't.

    Rikku? Tifa? Vanille?

    Immersion isn't about realism. Its about immersion in the Final Fantasy universe and all things Final Fantasy. If there had never been a single scantily clad character in Final Fantasy... yes it would be lore breaking.
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    Last edited by KeluBehemoth; 07-23-2016 at 06:47 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeluBehemoth View Post
    I get like 10 tells a day at most (If I'm idling in town) on Behemoth.

    I guess I'm wrong in thinking that a game marketed as a Final Fantasy game in the Final Fantasy universe, designed around Final Fantasy Fan Service... should y'know... like... stay about Final Fantasy Fan Service.

    I can't wait to play Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare with the free (optional) (but still able to be seen) Bratz issue BDU complete with Pokeball Grenade skins.

    I can't wait to play the next GTA online with its event that instead makes you go around doing the laundry and good deeds for the citizens of Liberty City.

    I am so excited to play the next Dark Souls game where I can run into a guy wearing a Gundam themed suit of armor.
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  8. #78
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    Quote Originally Posted by KeluBehemoth View Post
    Rikku?
    No, I'm talking about the fact that with glamour someone could be in your raid group or fighting Thordan EX in a maid outfit or a bikini, which obviously don't originally belong in the "lore" of FFXIV. You're bothered more by some minions? It's optional, casual content that you don't have to do. Most of the minions and mounts already in the game aren't exactly consistent with the world anyway. You weren't bothered by Lightning and FFXIII weapons showing up? Just because it's from Final Fantasy means it's OK? We had Dragon Quest events too, did you cry over them as well? Do you curse at whoever wears a Slime King hat?

    Also, you seem to think this game is purely about fan-service. I'd have to strongly disagree having played since 1.0, the fan service is something they have decided to add to cater to people who weren't already playing and try to promote the game a bit. It is no way what the game is built around.
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    Last edited by Colino; 07-23-2016 at 06:50 PM.

  9. #79
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    Quote Originally Posted by KeluBehemoth View Post
    I can't wait to play the next GTA online with its event that instead makes you go around doing the laundry and good deeds for the citizens of Liberty City.
    According to the descriptions of what is acceptable for immersion purposes you are contradicting yourself with this statement. It's still in the same universe, it isn't adding anything from outside that universe. The fact that you aren't killing someone isn't immersion breaking. You think that just because you play as a criminal, you don't occasionally have to do some laundry, or help your old neighbor lady take out her trash?

    In my opinion if you can defend tanks in wedding gear, healers in bikinis, and DPS in chocobo suits just because they "belong to the universe" but then use this as an example, you sir/madam are a troll, and not a very good one at that.

    Good day to you.
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  10. #80
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colino View Post
    No, I'm talking about the fact that with glamour someone could be in your raid group or fighting Thordan EX in a maid outfit or a bikini, which obviously don't originally belong in the "lore" of FFXIV. You're bothered more by some minions? It's optional, casual content that you don't have to do. Most of the minions and mounts already in the game aren't exactly consistent with the world anyway. You weren't bothere by Lightning and FFXIII weapons showing up?

    Also, you seem to think this game is purely about fan-service. I'd have to strongly disagree having played since 1.0, the fan service is something they have decided to add to cater to people who weren't already playing and try to promote the game a bit. It is no way what the game is built around.
    I wasn't bothered by the Lightning event at all because its still Final Fantasy. Not my favourite but its still one of them.

    Again though, Bikini's don't bother me. Final Fantasy has never been about realism. I'm not talking "Medieval Times" style lore. Just the universe.

    Like I would not expect a bikini in Dark Souls.

    Being that there has been a number of scantily clad characters in Final Fantasy over the years though, its not lore breaking.

    It's unrealistic, but not lore breaking of the Final Fantasy universe


    Aside from the fact that it doesn't fit the universe, its infuriating that its sponsored content. Designed to sell us a product and dressed up as something it isn't.
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    Last edited by KeluBehemoth; 07-23-2016 at 06:55 PM.

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