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    1. Its not my game.
    2. I am not "hating" on something that people enjoy.
    3. I am not quitting the game because of this.

    Is it so much to ask that a game based ENTIRELY around Final Fantasy... Simply stay, BASED AROUND FINAL FANTASY... Put that crap in any game you want. I'm not saying it isn't fun. I'm just saying... It has absolutely nothing to do with Final Fantasy in a game that is completely designed around FINAL FANTASY FAN SERVICE.

    Ok? I like my Big Mac as a Big Mac. I don't want to go and buy a Big Mac someday and have it be replaced with Chicken... or a Taco. Ok? That doesn't make me a hater. That doesn't make me Salty. That doesn't make me a troll.

    I play this game. Because it is a game marketed and designed to the absolute CORE. As a Final Fantasy Fan Service MMORPG. I like silly things ok? Moogle Weapons? Go for it. Chocobo Heads? Fine by me. I'm just saying its lore breaking and its a cheap, blatant cash grab.

    Also as someone else said... yes it is completely ridiculous. Not only is it lore breaking... not only did Yoshida say that they wouldn't do these types of events... its a complete cash grab on SE's part. It really is no different than having a Pizza Hut event that rewards Pizza Hut themed equipment. Its not fan service.

    I would bet my entire paycheque that less than 1/10th of the games population cares about Youkai Watch (I had never even heard of it prior) and that is including the JP population.

    Its not an anime.

    It is a Childrens Show.

    Its like putting Teletubbies into the game. Ok?

    Not once was the thought "I bet the community would really like this".

    The whole thing was "Gee... how can we line the pockets of Squares CEOs even more." Oh right.... SPONSORED CONTENT



    I understand not everyone (most people) actually hate Final Fantasy 13. It wasn't my favourite. Ok? But its still a Final Fantasy title. At LEAST as much as Secret of Mana. So its still Fan Service.

    Literally everything in this game Items, Armor, Music, Weapons, Enemies, Bosses, Spells, Abilities, Locations, Factions, NPCs, Cities, Races is at least Native to FFXIV OR to other FF Titles.

    Flying Turtle? Don't care. OK? Final Fantasy "Can" be silly. Thats perfectly fine. Ok? Theres lots of silly things in Final Fantasy.

    Just don't break the lore with blatant sponsored content is all I'm saying.
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    Last edited by KeluBehemoth; 07-23-2016 at 05:56 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeluBehemoth View Post
    1. Its not my game.
    2. I am not "hating" on something that people enjoy.
    3. I am not quitting the game because of this.

    Is it so much to ask that a game based ENTIRELY around Final Fantasy... Simply stay, BASED AROUND FINAL FANTASY... Put that crap in any game you want. I'm not saying it isn't fun. I'm not saying I don't like it. I'm just saying... It has absolutely nothing to do with Final Fantasy in a game that is completely designed around FINAL FANTASY FAN SERVICE.

    QQ I want the game as I will QQ
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    Last edited by Nayout; 07-23-2016 at 05:52 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nayout View Post

    QQ I want the game as I will QQ
    And they call me a troll? Want some fries with your salt?

    You joined the game in March 2016.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KeluBehemoth View Post
    And they call me a troll? Want some fries with your salt?

    You're a shining example of the type of people SE is catering to.

    Spend a few bucks on a fantasia, play with your friends. Join up for cute minions and glamour. Quit the game for something else three months later.

    You just subbed in 2016.
    "Hello, payment to complain in forums"
    Your complaint is stupid from the moment the game has missions that refer to other games or culture. What's more, your complaint starts talking of "COMPLETELY BREAKS THE IMMERSION OF THE GAMES LORE" when the game goes breaking the inmension from the moment you walk in PVP to fight 72 Warriors of Light .

    You know that all crossover events are not canon within the universe of the game?
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    Last edited by Nayout; 07-23-2016 at 06:12 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nayout View Post
    "Hello, payment to complain in forums"
    Your complaint is stupid from the moment the game has missions that refer to other games or culture. What's more, your complaint starts talking of "COMPLETELY BREAKS THE IMMERSION OF THE GAMES LORE" when the game goes breaking the inmension from the moment you walk in PVP to fight 72 Warriors of Light .

    You know that all crossover events are not canon within the universe of the game?
    Excuse me?

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...riors-of-Light

    Maybe have a read.

    It's explained pretty well in the games lore if you actually followed the story.

    The only other Crossover event that has been in game that has not been in the Final Fantasy universe has been the Dragon Quest event and that was trash as well.

    PvP (like in FF14) was also in FF11. Making it native to both FF11 and FF14. = Not lore breaking. PvP is also a game mode.

    Its no different than Final Fantasy Dissidia.

    Same universe = not lore breaking. No matter how stupid. How silly. How much you hate it. Its still fan service any way you look at it.

    Youkai Watch is sponsored content. NOT fan service.

    I don't understand what you're not understanding. I am not being salty. I am not being a hater It just simply is not fan service.

    Why is that so hard for people to admit?

    Rather than attacking me... Just say. Yes. You're right. It isn't fan service. It is a blatant cash grab for sponsored content and I ENJOY IT. Instead of putting up this ridiculous argument of somehow trying to say that I'm wrong in saying its not fan service in a game thats core design is around final fantasy fan service. You can still own your belief without trying to trash talk who doesn't believe the same as you.

    Not everything in life is this versus that. Just because you're for something doesn't mean youre against the opposite.

    You enjoy the content? Thats great. But I am not wrong, AT ALL in saying it is not in the least bit related to the games core design and selling points.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KeluBehemoth View Post
    You joined the game in March 2016.
    The date of the forum isn't when you started played but when you activated the forum account. I started way earler then my forum date say.
    Just saying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KeluBehemoth View Post
    *snip*
    Yes it is an Anime. Just because you feel it's too childish (and by the way, that is more than likely the translation ... just like Pokemon) doesn't mean it wouldn't be called by it's proper genre.

    And on that note, just like Pokemon, it was a video game first and foremost. Just because they turned it into an Anime, doesn't meant that's the primary focus.

    In Japan, the game is hugely popular. To the extent that it is gaining on Pokemon's popularity. Putting it in FFXIV will also increase it's foothold in the west.

    You keep citing that this game is FF fan service only, yet we have Dragon Quest items, and a mount that is based off of Gamera.
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    I am not a fan of the series, but I can understand why SE wants to promote this game in FFXIV:

    - Yokai Watch is very popular in Japan, so popular that their merchandise outsold those of Pokemon in 2014 and 2015.
    - Just like most toys/tv shows etc made for children (Pokemon, Digimon, My Little Pony), they have a huge adult following.
    - Yokai Watch is not popular in the NA/EU/AUS region, so by promoting this game via FFXIV, they might reach those Pokemon, Digimon fans who want to try something else.
    - FFXIV was promoted via a Yokai Watch game last year or was it 2014, it was in of those years. The chocobo and moogles are also present in their latest game.
    - Level 5, the company that develops the Yokai Watch games, creates the Dragon Quest games for Square Enix.
    - Yoshida is friends with creator (I think he was the creator) of Yokai Watch.
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    Well, as a Japanese game, Japan is ALL ABOUT crossovers. Square Enix, even moreso.

    If I see any of this stuff in game, I just chalk it up to whimsy. I mean we have the Slime King crown, an exaggerated, phallic pompadour hairstyle, a flying broomstick, legendary beasts as common mounts, and a pig mascot costume. Sure, maybe they don't quite fit into the game's world, but we have plenty of weird things that are part of the lore and world; Captain Longhaft, anything remotely related to Hildebrand, an entire noble house dedicated to playing match-maker, Leviabeetus, a goblin cult that has sacred cheese, and a wandering pompadour hitman squad... so when you look at it from that perspective, relatively, cartoony monster minions and weapons aren't so out of place.
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    And people wonder why they don't care about NA/EU servers, jeeze. This is exactly why
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