Why your silver chest refuses to give you an upgrade

[Destous]

The total sum of your weapon/armor value cannot exceed your current character level inside of PotD.

This means that if your weapon/armor value is 30, then you will not receive a bonus from silver chests until you reach level 31 within PotD.

That sounds good right? So long as you reach the right level, then you will get bonuses from silver chests.

Wrong.

There is still a failure rate even when your PotD character level exceeds your weapon/armor value. As best as I can tell, this failure rate increases as the gap between the two values decreases. So if your weapon/armor value is 30, and you open a silver chest at level 31, your odds of getting a bonus are very, very low.

With this in mind, the best way to start getting bonuses on your weapon, after you inevitably have to reset your progress data, is to full clear every floor of PotD. You get all the joy of killing very trivial monsters with the full knowledge that any silver chests you come across are useless to you.

Let's say you're at 29/30 on your PotD weapon/armor value. Every silver chest you find prior to hitting level 60 is guaranteed to not give you a bonus. Upon hitting level 60, the gap between your character level and your weapon/armor value is very small, and so the failure rate on the upgrade is very high.

So if you're nearing the end of your PotD weapon run, you'll end up running through ~45 floors where a bonus to your weapon/armor is impossible. Upon reaching a point where you can receive a bonus, you'll be fighting against the RNG of a silver chest showing up on a late 40s dungeon floor, and then against the RNG of the failure rate on that silver chest. Effectively, for the chance at a few floors worth of opportunity to receive a bonus at the end of the content, you must always replay the content from the beginning at floor 1. Don't think about racing through the floors as quickly as possible either; if you don't have a character level higher than your weapon/armor value, you will not get a bonus from silver chests. All of this instead of being able to replay the last 40-50 set of floors, where you would be just battling RNG.

If you're reading this and thinking to yourself "my gosh, that sounds terrible", then I have good news for you. That reaction means that you're not insane.

[MistyMew]

Wish I could "like" your post Destous hundreds of times!!

One of the few flaws I see with the design yup..but its enough of a flaw to make me do 1 weapon as opposed to 4 or 5 as I planned, just a bad design, sorry se...

[Cnidarian]

Wish I could "like" your post Destous hundreds of times!!

One of the few flaws I see with the design yup..but its enough of a flaw to make me do 1 weapon as opposed to 4 or 5 as I planned, just a bad design, sorry se...

Keep in mind that floors 51-100 will all be level 60 content as well as floors 101-150 and 151-200.

Edit- Which means that we don't know what the full system is. We have maybe 2 more weapon upgrades obtainable from PotD. I'm guessing the final weapon level will be something just below the next raid tier weapon and the next weapon will be halfway between the current one and the final one.

Also, assuming the following image has not been photoshopped, the OP is incorrect in their assessment of how upgrades work. This person is character level 47 and just had their armor upgraded to +26 when their weapon is +25. By using the guidelines in the OP, this is 100% impossible as their next upgrade would only be allowed with a character level of 51.

http://imgur.com/QWWMCu6

[Destous]

Assuming it's not a bug, it would most likely mean that the the failure rate only goes as high as 99%, which is slightly less terrible; but still terrible.

[Zetsumei_Tsunarashi]

I've heard you can d/c yourself from the game after you kill the last boss and if you wait like 5mins to log back in, it will kick you from the instance without saving, so if you don't get any upgrades at 40-50, you can just do those floors again. No trolling required.

Haven't tried it myself to see if it really works though. Maybe someone else can confirm.

[Canadane]

I've heard you can d/c yourself from the game after you kill the last boss and if you wait like 5mins to log back in, it will kick you from the instance without saving, so if you don't get any upgrades at 40-50, you can just do those floors again. No trolling required.

Haven't tried it myself to see if it really works though. Maybe someone else can confirm.

I wouldn't recommend griefing your comrades like that.

[mosaicex]

I wouldn't recommend griefing your comrades like that.

How is that griefing in any way?

[Ziegsy]

How is that griefing in any way?

faking a D/C when your team might want a clear? That's appalling behavior.

[mosaicex]

faking a D/C when your team might want a clear? That's appalling behavior.

Did you even read that post? He said to DC AFTER you killed the boss, wait for 5 mins then log in after it kicked you out of instance. Your party already got their clear and left already.

[Khalithar]

There is still a failure rate even when your PotD character level exceeds your weapon/armor value. As best as I can tell, this failure rate increases as the gap between the two values decreases. So if your weapon/armor value is 30, and you open a silver chest at level 31, your odds of getting a bonus are very, very low.

Interesting theory, but all the RNG stuff is anecdotal. Until we get a definitive answer from the devs though, there is no way to know for sure if this is correct.