Confusion: Archer to Bard? Where is the Ranger Job?

[Cpyro]

Ill be honest, i havent read too many pages of this thread, and i havent seen too much info about how/what/which jobs will be released. I keep thinking it would be nice if they did jobs sorta like SWTOR is set up. Start Archer then u can do Brd or Rng. In Swtor its one or the other but it could be either or in FFXIV. Theres really no limit to how they can present it to us. A few jobs per class.

[Claire_Pendragon]

I understand they can do a buffer/DD job like corsair but that is not my point, people didn't level archer to be a buffer. They leveled archer because it was a pure range damage dealer like ranger and they want whatever to continue to follow that path with its specialist job, right now it doesn't look like thats going to be an option.

I absolutely agree.
If a class is going to become a role, it needs to be something people know ahead of time.

I'm also a fan of having every type of DD support tank or healer combination possible, to have ppl find the class/role that best fits them.

[Imagene]

When i heard jobs were coming i was so hoping that Archer would advance into Ranger. And that the job quest and skills would enrich the flavour of the class in a DD sort of way.

However, those hoping for a bow ranger can only hope that down the road, that Ranger will be an offshoot of Archer.

With the revelation of Bard however, i think SE envisions Archers differently. Actually i think it'll be cool that they don't make Archers DD but instead (i suspect) that the direction SE is heading is for archer to inflict moderate DD (hopefully) but add significant status aliments. (Aim
for the Eyes - blinds/ Hamstring shot - heavy, Bloodletter - bleed, etc etc)

Here's precedence -
http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Archer

i think it makes sense. Enfeebles in Archer and Buffing as Bard in the more bowharp relevant way as (as opposed to harp/horn), would make for a complete and actually interesting support class.

My only gripe is that if im paying for arrows, if its not damage, then what am i paying for?

Actually be really cool to have specific arrows enhance corresponding enfeebles.

What do you guys think?
(p/s SE: release 1.20 info already!!!

[Lavani]

Well, I for one am glad that more people that feel they should have added a ranged DD are speaking up. Hopefully SE will read this thread and add something for us, keeping the support for those who want to go that route.

[Mamba]

Where have you gotten this info about Archer --> Bard? I haven't seen any official posts about it, can someone link me plz

[Reliquia]

Where have you gotten this info about Archer --> Bard? I haven't seen any official posts about it, can someone link me plz

I can't remember where I read it, but i can tell you that:
Archer - > Bard
Lancer -> Dragoon
Pugilist -> Monk
Marauder -> Warrior
Gladiator -> Paladin
Conjurer -> White Mage
Thaumaturge -> Black Mage

If you go to this link and check out the 4 pdf files at the bottom there is a lot of info in general about the future and changes.
http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...ser/index.html

[Skuld]

Of course you can. Just equip a gun.

I was thinking about get a dd job from the ranger, not to lv a new one >.>

[Lavani]

I was thinking about get a dd job from the ranger, not to lv a new one >.>

People don't seem to understand the real issue at hand. That is probably why they keep replying with, "don't play bard, pick a different class to play that does damage."

[Coglin]

People do get the issue. I can almost see where you are comming from with the "people didn't level archer to be a bard" mentality. What I am not understanding, Is why your upset about it. You made a false assumption. You appear to have hyped your self up on your false assumption. When the actual facts of the situation were released you fell from the high you hyped yourself up to based on your false assumption. thats no ones fault but yours.

When they announced "jobs" they very specifically said :

Jobs
The job system - that series-defining trademark - will be implemented in FINAL FANTASY XIV (details such as specific jobs TBA). Quests to unlock each job will become available once you have reached a certain rank in the corresponding class.
Rather than being advanced versions of classes, we would like players to think of jobs as specialized playing styles optimized for partying. While playing as a particular job will render you unable to equip certain actions of other classes, you will be compensated with access to exclusive actions, which can be acquired through quests.


This was released in may, here on the lodestone. Right after the fact that jobs would be released. If you falsely assumed that this would some how relate to a Hunter/Ranger bow oriented job, you were off base to make that assumption and are wrong to blame anyone besides yourself.

[Yonnji]

Rather than being advanced versions of classes, we would like players to think of jobs as specialized playing styles optimized for partying. While playing as a particular job will render you unable to equip certain actions of other classes, you will be compensated with access to exclusive actions, which can be acquired through quests.

People do not get the issue. Why SE is not giving us a ranged DD job "as specialized playing style optimized for partying"? Not instead of a BRD, but in addition to it, maybe? SE already said, that LNC will be able to branch into Dragoon or into something else. Why not Archer too?