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    Do certain conditions increase the drop-rate of chest keys?

    So my static and i have a little discussion going on. It all started when i told them about the rumor i heard.

    Much like FFXI... FFXIV too is an amazing place for rumors! Best example: The all-mighty Moon!

    So a friend of mine told me he heard the following rumor: At the Drake-Chest in Zahar'ak, if you kill the little minion drakes close before you kill the main drake, it increases the drop-rate of the chest-key. So he and his PT tested this for several hours and he had the feeling the rumor is true!

    Now my static and me went to the Kobold gold-chest boss today, we farmed him for almost 3h and got only one key!

    Now, as most of you probably know, the Kobold Boss is the weakest, and you cann fast-kill it w/o killing any minion. So that's what we did: We killed just the main-boss, totally ignoring the minions and respawns. After 1 1/2 hour, we started to kill the kobold-minions, but were still ignoring the golem-spawns. That's when we, close to the end of our trip, got one key.

    I remember when we did Flamefist and the Ixali Main-Boss, we always killed all the minions too... most because we had too, and got several key-drops in a rather short amount of time. So i suggested killing all the kobold-minions too and see if we get more key's. But my static was not up for it.

    We searched the internet if there was any thread about this topic. But they couldn't find any. I searched the forums here, and couldn't find a topic about it either.

    So i started this topic to get your opinion about that! And maybe find an answer to our question!

    Do you guys think, or know, that killing all the minions - or meeting certain other conditions - helps to increase the drop-rate of the key-chests?
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    Probably not; you can start any rumor in the FFO community and it'll gain steam. Take this, for instance:

    Quote Originally Posted by Cracked.com
    It's no surprise that we're bad at this, since the whole concept of measuring probability is a recent invention. Early man didn't have any concept of what percentage of bear encounters ended in being eaten. He only knew that he didn't want to be eaten. Our brains are not meant to instinctively understand any equation more complex than this:
    Bear = Run Away


    And then of course, add in the spice of the fact that people tend to remember things that validate their theory more than they remember the times it didn't pan out. This has kept the moon rumors alive for almost a DECADE despite there being no long-term, high-sample evidence for it whatsoever. Look up the rumor that the number 47 pops up more at random than any other number, or plug 666 in and watch what happens. These theories survive for eons.

    They got an HQ on a moon? HOLY SWEET MOTHER OF DJIGGA IT WAS A MOON-HQ!
    But the 20 they didn't? Eh, just not lucky that day.

    I'd say that's probably what's going on here, too.

    Gimme 1,000 samples of minion kill and 1,000 samples of not minion kill and we'll work out the stats.
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    Well, it's SE we're talking about. So it would not surprise me if there was a special condition!

    Just for example: Salvage in FFXI!

    You remember the third Floor of the Bhaflau Remnants?

    Dormant Rampart spawned by simultaneously defeating Archaic Gears from east and west side of map (kill the same gears at same time[...]
    Source

    Or just take FFX-2...

    Where you had to whistle 3 times after a Cutscene, and again after you just defeated the end-boss, to unlock the good ending with Tidus.

    So it IS possible that there are some hidden conditions! =D

    Gimme 1,000 samples of minion kill and 1,000 samples of not minion kill and we'll work out the stats.
    That's why i'm asking. ;-) Maybe some crazy player's already tested this! =3
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    We kill the minions every time and the drop rate is still abysmal. We never do golems but I doubt it does anything.
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