Make 'Mentor' status reportable

[LunaFaye]

That is not even close to what I was talking about. What I mean is we are human, we forget or some of us may have only done the dungeon/trial once. I cleared Levi Ex a few time and that was unsync'd, had no real reason to do it again after I got my mount. Fast forward months later and my first Mentor is Levi Ex sync'd. I had a vague memory of it but tried anyway. Basically, we can't expect mentors to be people who know every single thing. They are normal people just like you.

Oh I know what you're talking about, hence my comment and you've proven just to be the candidate I was talking about when entering a mentor roulette. And I have to disagree, sure now we have the option to unsync the content, in fact most of the old ARR trials can be solo'd, but the point is, that if you join a mentor roulette and want that mount, I should assume you know the fights. Everybody makes mistakes, not talking about that, however if you join that roulette with the excuse that you've done it unsync'd and you're human then im sorry to say, that mount should have been removed from your inventory. A Mentor should know the OLD ARR content or turn on your green little leaf and join it as newbie, but don't join it as mentor trying to find some excuse why you lack the knowledge of the trial.

[Cakekizyy]

That's a lot of content to expect someone to know all of it

[Fynlar]

if you join a mentor roulette and want that mount, I should assume you know the fights.

There's literally over a hundred duties on the mentor roulette. Granted, many of them are faceroll status, but if you think everyone is going to know them all just because they may have cleared some of these fights literally 1-2 or even more years ago... again, you're nuts.

[Rhyku]

There's literally over a hundred duties on the mentor roulette. Granted, many of them are faceroll status, but if you think everyone is going to know them all just because they may have cleared some of these fights literally 1-2 or even more years ago... again, you're nuts.

Sadly, some people think mentors should be able to remember how to do every duty perfectly, as I've gathered from reading a few threads.

[LunaFaye]

There's literally over a hundred duties on the mentor roulette. Granted, many of them are faceroll status, but if you think everyone is going to know them all just because they may have cleared some of these fights literally 1-2 or even more years ago... again, you're nuts.

That's like saying that you can't remember how to multiply 2x4, i am pretty sure you learned that nearly 10+ years ago. I've played this game since beta and sure some of the trials you run more than once when they are new in min ilvl etc, some trials/dungeons you don't run for 2+ years and yet I still remember them.

It's not difficult to dodge orange shit on the floor, yet some mentors think because they have not run an trial/dungeon for couple of years, that they can just stand in it. Those are also the people that die first and if they have that mentor crown displayed they should be slapping themselves.

No matter if you played this game a month ago or 3 years ago, there was never a dungeon/trial where you could stand in every orange circle on the floor and not be dead. Again not an excuse but keep listing them, pretty sure by the time we reach page 100, we find one that makes tunnel vision ok and acceptable.

[Fynlar]

That's like saying that you can't remember how to multiply 2x4, i am pretty sure you learned that nearly 10+ years ago. I've played this game since beta and sure some of the trials you run more than once when they are new in min ilvl etc, some trials/dungeons you don't run for 2+ years and yet I still remember them.

Good for you. Not everyone does. Mentors don't necessarily mean they're stellar players that never get hit, either.

If that's what you expect out of someone just because they're a mentor, you're going to continue being disappointed.

I have no intention of debating with you to even page 10, let alone 100, because that's really all there is to the matter.

[MeiUshu]

Sadly, some people think mentors should be able to remember how to do every duty perfectly, as I've gathered from reading a few threads.

It is good that you bring this forth....in truth, nobody expect everybody to know everything about everything BUT, when you undertake a job you should know that job and know it well..otherwise you shouldnt undertake it and this is again why I am against the Mentor system, someone mentioned is alot of content to know everything..and I agree you cant remember all.


There is a VERY basic thing that I would find normal though ..is that people that dont know DO SAY SO rather then display that crown, be total jerks, and in the end is visible they know nothing but still act almighty and allow themselves to slap on the face those that really dont know with total dumb comments, when they are the first ones to die on an AOE.

Want an example of how bad this system is ? Satasha NM (yeah the basically first dungeon in the list) player with crown on the head to leaf player ( that obviously had no clues at all)...guess what was the first words Mentor (because well if you display yourself as a Mentor you are one right ?) said (I wish I had kept that script)

Go read a guide, get good and he poofed

Yeah? right....you heard it well...how is that even acceptable ? and more important what image is given of the game, and of the community, you think is a exception and it doesnt happen often ? well guess what ? wrong it happens on a daily basis on any and all places.

As long as these attitudes are promoted /allowed, Mentor system should be removed, there is no space to threat others with such display.

There could be a way to change for the best this, possibly, although I am not a tech

Have the dungeons/trials that pertain to the Mentor roulette visibly listed under Mentor Roulette and let the Mentors check/choose what they know/want to mentor and make Mentor roulette be available only for leaf barers & Mentors, that way Mentors will land with new players only and if truely a mentor is reported for acting porly with this system, harsh sanctions could be applied since mentor choose what he wanted /could teach.

Might cut short on a few things but might also reduce sensibly the access to Mentor Roulette for lack of people.

As is today, I will say it again, is a bad and poor system.

[Masekase_Hurricane]

I'm disappointed to see this is such an issue. I recently came back to the game and learned about the mentor system by spotting that crown, and then finding the mentor npc and learning about the requirements.

I typically find myself too nervous to tank higher level content, and would intentionally queue for early content in order to help new players and potentially replace a missing tank, and seeing that there was a system with a roulette specifically to help sprouts appealed to me.

Then I see on the forums that there is a mount reward and that people are flouting the spirit behind the mentor system just to get it. I may not be surprised, but I'm still disappointed, and perhaps a little concerned that the abuse will lead to the system's abolishment.

I was a bit like that at first. Lately I decided to progress from 50 WAR having not done endgame with it since 2.2. I suggest that you take a tank job into Deep Palace it really does help you learn the job and give you confidence.

[Seoulstar]

I was a bit like that at first. Lately I decided to progress from 50 WAR having not done endgame with it since 2.2. I suggest that you take a tank job into Deep Palace it really does help you learn the job and give you confidence.

I probably should do that myself since I'm still a bit afraid when it comes to tanking. But I'm slowly gaining confidence.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

It's so scary how the community thinks we mentors must know everything 1000% or " kill the mentor! Remove their status!!" Don't know the cd of a boss attack? REPORT THIS FAKE MENTOR! -_-

Seriously, is the community so hell bent on a witch hunt? Granted there are black sheeps in the mentors ranks, but to tar every single of them with the same brush is just being judgemental. IMO? There's seriously no reason for mentor system to exist outside of a shiny crown. SE should have never initiated this to begin with. Intentions were good, but implementation has gone horridly wrong. Might be time to scrap this. As many have said before, you don't need a crown to teach newbies.

Well, what did you expect from a community that want to burn people at the stake for early hunt pulls?