Make 'Mentor' status reportable

[VanillaWafer]

I've recently became a Mentor right when I got DRK to 60. I've always wanted to be a Mentor as I really enjoy helping people in general. Now, being that I'm very new to the whole endgame content as a Tank, I know I will have my slip ups. I'm only human after all. But the crown next to my name makes people expect I know what I'm doing.

Yesterday's Mentor Roulette was the Odin Fight for me. I know everything there is to know about the Urth's Fount fight as a healer and as a DPS. (And I actually mentioned this while in the fight.) But still being a bit new to tanking old content, I knew jack squat on what I'm supposed to do as a Dark Knight. I was only trying to learn and get comfortable tanking. Well, long story short, it didn't end well for the 4 first timers, either. Even after explaining the mechanics to them.

Because of this experience, I feel that the Mentor system could have had more prerequisites in order to become an actual Mentor. For example: complete some of the more important dungeons, raids, and trials as each role. Each instance must be Synced as you'll be doing them anyway in the Mentor Roulette. It would prepare you to what's to come.

That way, when you do become a Mentor, you have very little room for error to happen. But then again, we are human, so we're prone to make mistakes here and there. It's unavoidable.

Going on topic here, I don't want people to think make the assumption that I'm in the Mentor system for a Mount based on how I'm screwing up in something. But I rather have SE tweak the prerequisites so there would be even less crappy players.

[DynamoAce]

I personally feel that if a Mentor has mentor status but there are certain things that they might not know/are not very good with, then that's fine they're only human not perfect machines. We all have things we might not be good at and no one said a Mentor has to be 100% perfect.

I think that what's not okay however, is when a Mentor will outright refuse a newbie any help/advice simply because they feel it's a waste or are throwing the "gitgud m8" mentality at you.

[Rhyku]

It's so scary how the community thinks we mentors must know everything 1000% or " kill the mentor! Remove their status!!" Don't know the cd of a boss attack? REPORT THIS FAKE MENTOR! -_-

Seriously, is the community so hell bent on a witch hunt? Granted there are black sheeps in the mentors ranks, but to tar every single of them with the same brush is just being judgemental. IMO? There's seriously no reason for mentor system to exist outside of a shiny crown. SE should have never initiated this to begin with. Intentions were good, but implementation has gone horridly wrong. Might be time to scrap this. As many have said before, you don't need a crown to teach newbies.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

It's so scary how the community thinks we mentors must know everything 1000% or " kill the mentor! Remove their status!!" Don't know the cd of a boss attack? REPORT THIS FAKE MENTOR! -_-

Seriously, is the community so hell bent on a witch hunt? Granted there are black sheeps in the mentors ranks, but to tar every single of them with the same brush is just being judgemental. IMO? There's seriously no reason for mentor system to exist outside of a shiny crown. SE should have never initiated this to begin with. Intentions were good, but implementation has gone horridly wrong. Might be time to scrap this. As many have said before, you don't need a crown to teach newbies.

Well, what did you expect from a community that want to burn people at the stake for early hunt pulls?

[DynamoAce]

I kinda want to suggest that instead of making it so Mentors can be reported, maybe have a Feedback option instead. Granted that people could still try to turn that into a "Let's badmouth the mentor in every way possible because they didn't follow our possibly crazy expectations". So it might be broken...but maybe someone else has ideas for that?

[Cakekizyy]

That's a lot of content to expect someone to know all of it

[Fynlar]

if you join a mentor roulette and want that mount, I should assume you know the fights.

There's literally over a hundred duties on the mentor roulette. Granted, many of them are faceroll status, but if you think everyone is going to know them all just because they may have cleared some of these fights literally 1-2 or even more years ago... again, you're nuts.

[Rhyku]

There's literally over a hundred duties on the mentor roulette. Granted, many of them are faceroll status, but if you think everyone is going to know them all just because they may have cleared some of these fights literally 1-2 or even more years ago... again, you're nuts.

Sadly, some people think mentors should be able to remember how to do every duty perfectly, as I've gathered from reading a few threads.

[MeiUshu]

Sadly, some people think mentors should be able to remember how to do every duty perfectly, as I've gathered from reading a few threads.

It is good that you bring this forth....in truth, nobody expect everybody to know everything about everything BUT, when you undertake a job you should know that job and know it well..otherwise you shouldnt undertake it and this is again why I am against the Mentor system, someone mentioned is alot of content to know everything..and I agree you cant remember all.


There is a VERY basic thing that I would find normal though ..is that people that dont know DO SAY SO rather then display that crown, be total jerks, and in the end is visible they know nothing but still act almighty and allow themselves to slap on the face those that really dont know with total dumb comments, when they are the first ones to die on an AOE.

Want an example of how bad this system is ? Satasha NM (yeah the basically first dungeon in the list) player with crown on the head to leaf player ( that obviously had no clues at all)...guess what was the first words Mentor (because well if you display yourself as a Mentor you are one right ?) said (I wish I had kept that script)

Go read a guide, get good and he poofed

Yeah? right....you heard it well...how is that even acceptable ? and more important what image is given of the game, and of the community, you think is a exception and it doesnt happen often ? well guess what ? wrong it happens on a daily basis on any and all places.

As long as these attitudes are promoted /allowed, Mentor system should be removed, there is no space to threat others with such display.

There could be a way to change for the best this, possibly, although I am not a tech

Have the dungeons/trials that pertain to the Mentor roulette visibly listed under Mentor Roulette and let the Mentors check/choose what they know/want to mentor and make Mentor roulette be available only for leaf barers & Mentors, that way Mentors will land with new players only and if truely a mentor is reported for acting porly with this system, harsh sanctions could be applied since mentor choose what he wanted /could teach.

Might cut short on a few things but might also reduce sensibly the access to Mentor Roulette for lack of people.

As is today, I will say it again, is a bad and poor system.

[LunaFaye]

There's literally over a hundred duties on the mentor roulette. Granted, many of them are faceroll status, but if you think everyone is going to know them all just because they may have cleared some of these fights literally 1-2 or even more years ago... again, you're nuts.

That's like saying that you can't remember how to multiply 2x4, i am pretty sure you learned that nearly 10+ years ago. I've played this game since beta and sure some of the trials you run more than once when they are new in min ilvl etc, some trials/dungeons you don't run for 2+ years and yet I still remember them.

It's not difficult to dodge orange shit on the floor, yet some mentors think because they have not run an trial/dungeon for couple of years, that they can just stand in it. Those are also the people that die first and if they have that mentor crown displayed they should be slapping themselves.

No matter if you played this game a month ago or 3 years ago, there was never a dungeon/trial where you could stand in every orange circle on the floor and not be dead. Again not an excuse but keep listing them, pretty sure by the time we reach page 100, we find one that makes tunnel vision ok and acceptable.