Make 'Mentor' status reportable

[Fynlar]

Considering how often I run into people who give me flak for not explaining anything even though nobody actually asked for anything to be explained, I'm gonna have to go with a no on this.

People would be reporting mentors any time they did not tick every little box of their mentor criteria, which could be anything ranging from "not being a douche" to "not ready checking before EVERY fight" to "not dusting off everyone's shoes before starting the run"

[Mindylou]

Hi,

We should be able to report mentors that are mentors just for the mount, i.e. the mentors that wont explain anything, nor just a quick sum up of the fight (if you have X go to Y or stack up on Z etc..) in 2 to 3 lines like it was the case before 3.0.
Even if the 'not-knowing-the-strat-people' don't identify themselves, it is often plain obvious they don't know it and real mentors should act consequently (explaining the strat).

Suggestion summed up : being able to report mentors to deprive them of their mentors status should enough report be accounted for in order to force mentors to act as mentors not leeches.

Sorry if this report already exists but I didn't find any.

^ downvote ....good lord

[EdgeFayth]

The mount.
Seriously, is there people really doing this roulette for the mount?
I am a casual player, and I do the mentor roulette maybe once or twice a week when I think about it and when I have time. Just to help people.
Assuming someone with more playing time and doing the roulette twice a day, this person will need 3 years in order to get the mount.
Assuming now a crazy guy doing 20 roulettes a day (so something like 10 hours a day doing only this), he will need 3 months. Is there people crazy enough to do that only for a mount?
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I think no one is doing this roulette for the reward.

[Fynlar]

Seriously, is there people really doing this roulette for the mount?

*raises hand*

[AlphaFox]

Whenever you put a reward at the end of something people will flock to it regardless.PvP Glamour? Expect bad or uncaring people to flock to PVP just to get it. Same with mentor, some people have zero interest in helping, they just want the shiny reward at the end. However it should be noted that just cus a person is a Mentor, they won't know the ins and outs of every single dungeon/trial. You can ask but they may just say "I don't recall this at all"

[LunaFaye]

However it should be noted that just cus a person is a Mentor, they won't know the ins and outs of every single dungeon/trial. You can ask but they may just say "I don't recall this at all"

And the system should detect that and kick the person right away. I don't care if the mentor roulette gives out a mount, it could give out a ilvl 500 weapon I still wouldn't care, but the moment I am stuck with 5 morons in 1 party and 3 of them are mentors that paid for a clear or bought the account, that's when it becomes a problem and I can't be bothered to drag those people through the roulette.

[Drkdays]

Whenever you put a reward at the end of something people will flock to it regardless.PvP Glamour? Expect bad or uncaring people to flock to PVP just to get it. Same with mentor, some people have zero interest in helping, they just want the shiny reward at the end. However it should be noted that just cus a person is a Mentor, they won't know the ins and outs of every single dungeon/trial. You can ask but they may just say "I don't recall this at all"

Making it easier to get the PvP gear as a glam and adding other PvP related rewards helped PvP by making the queue time shorter since more ppl were actually interested in doing it, just like with mentor roulette. Adding a long term reward helps reduce wait times. After that, it's all about who you get. And while not all mechanics can be easily remembered if not seen often, a mentor is expected to be able deal with whatever comes at them with at least some competency. If you encounter a mentor who lacks the will to be helpful and provides no efficiency to the run, then you should kick them. But just because you have a mentor who is stone silent, you can at least expect them to understand their job.

[AlphaFox]

And the system should detect that and kick the person right away. I don't care if the mentor roulette gives out a mount, it could give out a ilvl 500 weapon I still wouldn't care, but the moment I am stuck with 5 morons in 1 party and 3 of them are mentors that paid for a clear or bought the account, that's when it becomes a problem and I can't be bothered to drag those people through the roulette.

That is not even close to what I was talking about. What I mean is we are human, we forget or some of us may have only done the dungeon/trial once. I cleared Levi Ex a few time and that was unsync'd, had no real reason to do it again after I got my mount. Fast forward months later and my first Mentor is Levi Ex sync'd. I had a vague memory of it but tried anyway. Basically, we can't expect mentors to be people who know every single thing. They are normal people just like you.

Making it easier to get the PvP gear as a glam and adding other PvP related rewards helped PvP by making the queue time shorter since more ppl were actually interested in doing it, just like with mentor roulette. Adding a long term reward helps reduce wait times. After that, it's all about who you get. And while not all mechanics can be easily remembered if not seen often, a mentor is expected to be able deal with whatever comes at them with at least some competency. If you encounter a mentor who lacks the will to be helpful and provides no efficiency to the run, then you should kick them. But just because you have a mentor who is stone silent, you can at least expect them to understand their job.

The point I am trying to make is just because you have a reward at the end your going to attract all kinds of people, some who are willing to help fulfill what the main point of the roulette is for and those who could care less about the status and only want the reward. People complain about the wait times for PvP, yet throw in rewards and suddenly its "Were getting newbs who don't care and are just here for the reward!" Which I admit I fall into the category myself PvP wise, I do try but I am not gonna be as hardcore as the rest who actually enjoy it so I know I am bringing them down. Same goes for mentors who run the roulette but have zero interest in helping and will even kick the newbies or ditch if it means speeding it up. I will admit I think if your going to wear the Mentor crown you do need to compose yourself a bit better and set a good example but again falling into the "Some do it for X, some do it for Y"

[LunaFaye]

That is not even close to what I was talking about. What I mean is we are human, we forget or some of us may have only done the dungeon/trial once. I cleared Levi Ex a few time and that was unsync'd, had no real reason to do it again after I got my mount. Fast forward months later and my first Mentor is Levi Ex sync'd. I had a vague memory of it but tried anyway. Basically, we can't expect mentors to be people who know every single thing. They are normal people just like you.

Oh I know what you're talking about, hence my comment and you've proven just to be the candidate I was talking about when entering a mentor roulette. And I have to disagree, sure now we have the option to unsync the content, in fact most of the old ARR trials can be solo'd, but the point is, that if you join a mentor roulette and want that mount, I should assume you know the fights. Everybody makes mistakes, not talking about that, however if you join that roulette with the excuse that you've done it unsync'd and you're human then im sorry to say, that mount should have been removed from your inventory. A Mentor should know the OLD ARR content or turn on your green little leaf and join it as newbie, but don't join it as mentor trying to find some excuse why you lack the knowledge of the trial.

[Fynlar]

And the system should detect that and kick the person right away.

Not going to happen. Mentors are just people, they aren't machines. If the mentor roulette threw me into Ultima HM tomorrow, I can pretty much guarantee you I wouldn't remember the fight. The last time I did it synced was probably over a year ago. If you think I'm gonna remember every mechanic of that fight, you're nuts.

You need to adjust your expectations a little bit, otherwise you're going to continue to be disappointed.