Make 'Mentor' status reportable

[Zojha]

Why are we as a player base so greedy and selfish?

Because Adam Smith said that's precisely what we should be in order to create the maximum amount of welfare possible - maximize your own utility and the invisible hand will do the rest.

And then things got more complicated with all the ifs and buts and people phased out.

[Kietsu]

Meanwhile in Japan players are using it as it was attended. Why are we as a player base so greedy and selfish?

First player to get the mount by grinding (and abusing) the roulette was Japanese.

[Celef]

First player to get the mount by grinding (and abusing) the roulette was Japanese.

Someone already has it ?! :O

[cammi]

Someone already has it ?! :O

Yeah there is a picture flying around with the person on it. I can't find it tho but it was discovered a few weeks ago.

[hagare]

First player to get the mount by grinding (and abusing) the roulette was Japanese.

I don't get it.
Explain how it's considered abusing.
I mean you still have to finish the roulette, which implies that everything went well.

[mp-please]

First player to get the mount by grinding (and abusing) the roulette was Japanese.

Person just started spamming before the achievement was implemented, there was no abuse, every single clear count carries over once a new step is implemented.

I'll get a healer mentor who waits until I'm at 15% hp to toss a heal or two my way.

If he's "afk", yea that's bad but if he's dpsing that's the normal procedure.

[Espritduo]

Person just started spamming before the achievement was implemented, there was no abuse, every single clear count carries over once a new step is implemented.

I assume by abuse they mean the mentor just left any roulette that wasn't a quick guildhest or something else really fast, basically giving the DC finger to any EX trials or lengthy/annoying dungeons, kicking any players that even slightly slowed the run, demanding speed runs always and vote abandoning at the drop of a hat. That's what I've seen other lowlifes gunning for this achievement say they do. If this person actually qeue'd up for and ran 2000 runs without being a self-centered sack of crap about it, kudos to them, but I doubt it happened that way.

[mp-please]

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Can always assume the worst but let's think about it, the mentor system came out feb 23rd, 1st screenshot of astrope mount came out July 5th. That's a 133 day gap that makes 15 runs a day. Considering anyone who worked on the relic would definitely spam the hell out of the mentor roulette for extra eso, how there are hundreds of JP macros to explain each fight and how JP DF is miles better than the NA/EU one it's not too farfetched to believe it was done legitimately.
Even if someone asks "why would anyone queue for 15 roulettes a day since day one" they wouldn't but they probably ran a lot more when the relic needed that insane amount of eso/poetics.

[Serilda]

Um, I'm a mentor who didn't get the status through running dungeons. I love hanging out in the mentor channel and giving advice, and helping strangers whenever I'm in the cities and they see me standing around with a crown. I've met lots of cool newbies that way and my server is pretty dead so it helps me reach out and talk to new players. I would be sort of concerned if my status was stripped because I didn't offer deep insight into tank mechanics in a hard fight one day just because someone assumed I had got there via mentor roulette and wasn't doing 'my job' properly. Furthermore, many players don't speak the language everyone presumes is the dominant one (here, English). What if they're say, a Spanish player who can communicate fine to do their job but not to explain how to tank Shiva when they don't main tank in the first place? It's unfair and presumptuous to assume everyone else speaks your language fluently.

I agree that encouraging speedruns of mentor roulette for a reward was silly. There should be a popup warning screen saying 'you're joining this roulette as a mentor, so you should focus on helping with the clear' or something rather than tempting people to charge through the content for a mount reward they can show off. But I don't even join mentor roulettes because I'm not confident in knowing every combat job well enough to give advanced strategy pointers in a language which isn't my first, and I'd be upset if people thought that meant I couldn't mentor people ever. Maybe only show the crown in a duty if you specifically join via the roulette?

[LadyVal]

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Honestly I don't think your mentor title would be at risk. There's a large difference between a mentor that says "Sorry, I actually don't know the answer to your question" (if it's super specific) or "Sorry, I actually don't know this particular mechanic that in-depth as a healer/tank/DPS," or even a tank that says "No habla espanol" and a tank that just says "Idk just hurry up" when asked by someone "Anything I should know for this boss?"

I think OP meant more along the lines of people who blatantly refuse help (which I've seen before) or information, not so much the mentors who don't know everything about everything. Even if you don't know how to tank Shiva, you still know some mechanics to look out for and you can say "Most tanks I've run with tank her on the north edge, facing the edge of the arena." If you have good intention and you make a genuine effort, even if the effort isn't perfect, people notice that and probably won't want to put your head on the chopping block. Plus, you can always tell people too, "Hey my mentor icon actually is a crafter/PvP icon so I don't have a ton of experience with this mechanic, but here's what I do know about it..."