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  1. #21
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    Avatar von Celef
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    Aranie Crowley
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    Druide Lv 81
    So what about Rift's REX (an item you buy via CS for real money to get in game currency to buy item in CS) which is tradable on the market place or Guild wars 2 in game currency, again buyable and sellable by players ?

    Is this, in you opinion, RMT activities considering it was created by the dev team itself ?
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    Zitat Zitat von Watachy Beitrag anzeigen
    C'était en fait SE qui survolait Ishgard sur une liasse de billets

    Zitat Zitat von KaivaC Beitrag anzeigen
    People don't know how to take criticism anymore, and bad play is rewarded with with a coddling mentality. Yes, this is a casual game for the most part - that doesn't mean people need to walk on eggshells in fear of getting reported for pointing out things. This whole 'please don't say anything even slightly negative' mentality that we seem to be going towards and the devs seemingly pushing towards it is creating a disturbing trend.

  2. #22
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    Avatar von Maxipep
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    India Carter
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    Goblin
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    Waldläufer Lv 60
    Because this is Final Fantasy XIV. What you see in one game isn't necessarily the same in other games.
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  3. #23
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    Avatar von Tisharu
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    Alincia Valeria
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    Sargatanas
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    Weißmagier Lv 60
    Gift Code Overview

    ・Gift codes can be purchased for the sole purpose of giving another player a gift.

    ・The use of gift codes for any activity relating to, or suggesting the trade of real-world money, in-game currency, or in-game virtual items is strictly prohibited. Action
    may be taken against users found to be in violation of the service agreement.


    ・Gift codes are valid for one use only.

    ・All gift codes issued will be listed under Payment History.

    ・All purchases of gift codes are final and non-refundable, regardless of whether or not said gift code has been used.
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  4. #24
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    Avatar von Celef
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    Moogle
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    Druide Lv 81
    Zitat Zitat von Maxipep Beitrag anzeigen
    Because this is Final Fantasy XIV. What you see in one game isn't necessarily the same in other games.
    I know regardin FF14 but still, just for the debat how can we difference this from RMT ?
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    Zitat Zitat von Watachy Beitrag anzeigen
    C'était en fait SE qui survolait Ishgard sur une liasse de billets

    Zitat Zitat von KaivaC Beitrag anzeigen
    People don't know how to take criticism anymore, and bad play is rewarded with with a coddling mentality. Yes, this is a casual game for the most part - that doesn't mean people need to walk on eggshells in fear of getting reported for pointing out things. This whole 'please don't say anything even slightly negative' mentality that we seem to be going towards and the devs seemingly pushing towards it is creating a disturbing trend.

  5. #25
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    Avatar von LadyVal
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    Valentina Jalenoux
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    Siren
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    Gelehrter Lv 80
    Zitat Zitat von Celef Beitrag anzeigen
    I know regardin FF14 but still, just for the debat how can we difference this from RMT ?
    Any way you look at it, in any game, it is RMT. But, each game has different rules on RMT. So in FF14, all RMT is against the rules. However in GW2, you may be able to sell cash shop items for in-game currency. Whereas in WoW you may be able to sell your entire account for real-world money. RMT is RMT but each game decides how much, if any, RMT is allowed.

    (Also please note I haven't played GW2 or WoW, but those are just similar MMOs to FF14 that I could think of to draw a comparison for the illustration of my point.)
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  6. #26
    Player Avatar von Lexia
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    Lexia Lightress
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    Balmung
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    Technically I guess they could consider it RMT, but SE created the situation themselves. The more stuff they add to the mog shop and the more money they charge (looking at you $30 mount) the more likely this stuff is going to happen. There rich people in RL and there rich people in game and just swap wealth in a different way. In the end Person A get the mog shop item they want, Person B get gil and SE get paid money. Like said earlier SE created this situation themselves and if they don't want it going on then they need to have a in game way to get the items in addition to just being able to buy it off the mog shop.
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  7. #27
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    Avatar von Bixillarla
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    Willow Rivers
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    Jenova
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    Zitat Zitat von Lexia Beitrag anzeigen
    Technically I guess they could consider it RMT, but SE created the situation themselves. The more stuff they add to the mog shop and the more money they charge (looking at you $30 mount) the more likely this stuff is going to happen. There rich people in RL and there rich people in game and just swap wealth in a different way. In the end Person A get the mog shop item they want, Person B get gil and SE get paid money. Like said earlier SE created this situation themselves and if they don't want it going on then they need to have a in game way to get the items in addition to just being able to buy it off the mog shop.
    Or if too much of this happens they will take away the gifting option.
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  8. #28
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    Avatar von Dustytome
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    Fox Briarthorn
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    Sargatanas
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    Gourmet Lv 100
    Zitat Zitat von Lexia Beitrag anzeigen
    Technically I guess they could consider it RMT, but SE created the situation themselves.
    There's no could, they do consider it RMT.
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  9. #29
    Player Avatar von Lexia
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    Lexia Lightress
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    Balmung
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    Zitat Zitat von Bixillarla Beitrag anzeigen
    Or if too much of this happens they will take away the gifting option.
    Zitat Zitat von Dustytome Beitrag anzeigen
    There's no could, they do consider it RMT.
    SE likes money too much which why they charge what they do for the mog shop items. The money going to them not some gil selling company so SE would most likely turn a blind eye to it. Why would a company want to punish someone for giving them money.
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  10. #30
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    Avatar von Maxipep
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    India Carter
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    Goblin
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    Waldläufer Lv 60
    It's not whether you consider it to be RMT it's how Se consider it, it seems you are trolling this in the hope that one person will say "no it's not RMT" so you can go ahead and make real money from an in game item and, if you're caught fall back on this thread. For a definitive answer try speaking with a GM
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