Weeping City Loot RNG is the worst

[Nasrin]

Okay so this isn't just Weeping City but all the alliance raids. While I understand it's designed to just go in kill some bosses get a free piece of decent loot I feel the RNG is a little much. There are 4 bosses and the loot tables are huge. So huge infact that after 20+ runs of Weeping City I am yet to even see the healing chest piece. Haven't seen it once. This seems excessive and would be amazing if something could change in 2.5's alliance raid because running this for a single item that I'm not even guaranteed to win in the first place is simply crap. Thanks.

[Werhusky]

RNG is much better than with the Towers cause of 2 chests and same piece can drop at multiple bosses. Still RNG is RNG you cannot deny that...
Btw took me 55 WoD back then to get DRG chestpiece... sooooo....

[Sida]

What sort of solution would you want though? Some sort of token back up system in place would be one but we already have enough token systems for that to stay feasible (at least until mauve some day we get token investment tory separate from inventory spots)

Other would be dynamic loot table. On any run, the loot table would contain one set for every person in party (so two healer sets, possibly two other sets of the job is presented in multiples)

Pros: people would more likely get what they need for their current job. Still needs to win against others of the same role.
Cons: the loot table almost never contains all roles so kitting off-roles is harder

I actually like it well enough as it is now. But would this suggestion suit the wants of OP?

[NorthernLadMSP]

Okay so this isn't just Weeping City but all the alliance raids. While I understand it's designed to just go in kill some bosses get a free piece of decent loot I feel the RNG is a little much. There are 4 bosses and the loot tables are huge. So huge infact that after 20+ runs of Weeping City I am yet to even see the healing chest piece. Haven't seen it once. This seems excessive and would be amazing if something could change in 2.5's alliance raid because running this for a single item that I'm not even guaranteed to win in the first place is simply crap. Thanks.

Yeah, we're going on week 4 now and I haven't seen it or the the healing pants drop once. But, you can be sure that I see the same exact MNK, DRG and NIN pieces dropping every single time. In fact, this last week, I was so tired of running it non-stop, that by Saturday I just greeded on a NIN chest to not have to run it anymore for the week.

[Maero]

It's pretty much been like this every 24 man raid though. Ct when first introduced back in the day, and not even joking here, i had done well over 100 runs for the crimson robe of casting.
It was usually ALWAYS Monk gear that dropped and then was Bard. St was mostly Bard gear, VA sort of drg and Bard drops and now weeping city i mostly see Ninja drops.
I thank the gods though my very first run of weeping city the caster chest dropped and none must have wanted it as i won, and my rolls are always poo, lol
I do not have a real solution but truly think the loot system needs to be reworked.

[Zojha]

It really just feels the worst because you spend between 50 minutes to well over an hour per run trying to get the loot.

But RNG always sucks. Whether it's Atmas, luminous crystals, loot, mechanics...it's simply not fun. Might as well have bosses hard enrage after a random amount of time, rather than a given one >_>

[randysquirrel]

Yes the RNG of weeping city, is much worse than the RNG of M2S. The best RNG can be found in Shiva HM.
Crafting RNG is average.
Random Roll RNG is a bit better than average.

I have not tested the RNG of the anima umbrite hand in bonus enough yet to determine if it's good or bad RNG

[Makoto_Tayuun]

Just finished a run, Ozma dropped double scouting chest. Kill last boss double scouting chest again. only had 2 ninjas across the entire 24 people. i think i've seen more scouting and striking pieces drop than the other sets combined since weeping city was released.

[FunkyBunch]

Just finished a run, Ozma dropped double scouting chest. Kill last boss double scouting chest again. only had 2 ninjas across the entire 24 people. i think i've seen more scouting and striking pieces drop than the other sets combined since weeping city was released.

Sigh, and when I NIN no pieces drop =/

[StouterTaru]

RNG is much better than with the Towers cause of 2 chests and same piece can drop at multiple bosses.

I would say it's worse because of that, if you are only after one item. Having four 1/18 chance of a drop per dungeon gives a greater chance of not seeing it vs one 2/9 chance (I know it's not 18 anymore, but I refuse to acknowledge ninjas exist, because if I see them then they aren't ninjas).